From 3alS9SwgJBsc5rypxvx7tznvy.p1zy1won0t11tyrt41725.p1z@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 20:58:59 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3alS9SwgJBsc5rypxvx7tznvy.p1zy1won0t11tyrt41725.p1z@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzitL-0007EL-FZ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:59 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf1643100vws.16 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=9Ov8S8JNwfM6rnhu74vd8crBGMLj2Bvu3PWsNUT50zs=; b=ECENxtYsvo0T49bQglwzJqU8a2N9RdnkwT0vxjD5SrrH0N4ttB7FhmEHY6X5tzw5HE DjEM7YLs+M3tH0LhpA7DA+qW3svqCikT6s0wOAUQ2tT10hxfJzjDo/HkmcFWFFVIvmQj rhJPl+zjli/4eFV+b1TO3/bIukcuVhE3QhvFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ITATLo0nJ6fAMm/vKclUrVrICHDxjJuUkEzi3WrSzWRoD21DiVofFeg9H2flUNNM56 MtnJBP9bDEnFWJW8+YlJLPvfVWB3/1rBgL+4IzGSwyTUxlpULdkJB7QKoYfajavi146i bOuG1+6ejG8iddcgl4gBIwjafI2HJNLbqInb8= Received: by 10.220.107.1 with SMTP id z1mr688599vco.7.1270699114098; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.87.130 with SMTP id w2ls1862220vcl.4.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.159.70 with SMTP id i6mr2593242vcx.15.1270699111504; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.159.70 with SMTP id i6mr2593241vcx.15.1270699111483; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f43.google.com (mail-gw0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si37802492vws.0.2010.04.07.20.58.30; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.43; Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17so2911083gwj.2 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.203 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:58:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407202259.GM3000@nvg.org> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:58:10 -0400 Received: by 10.150.128.36 with SMTP id a36mr10119733ybd.337.1270699110272; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/c0a7004259e21606 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi lobypli .i .au jbobau spuda .i la .camgusmis. teryrei cusku zoi .glico. I would like Lojban to remain as close as it possibly can to its current state, regardless of whether I or a group of experienced Lojbanists see that improvements could be made. Agree or disagree? .glico. .i mi na tugni .i .au la .lojban. binxo lo plixau xagmau .i ji'a mi tugni la .epkat. noi cusku zoi .glico. Our humble proposition is merely "more than zero change". Do not conflate that with "zero stability". There is a spectrum. .glico. .i lo nu troci lo nu la .lojban. prane cu daspo .ie .i ku'i tu'e zenba lo ka racli kei lo ba'e cmalu .i je go'i lo ka plixau .i je go'i lo ka frili ve ctuca .i je go'i lo ka melbi tu'u .i .ia kakne la'e di'u .i je .ia .au be'u sarcu .i je .ia .i'e .ui .au .a'u .a'o ba zi .uo sai fasnu ni'o mi kakne lo nu jbota'a li'a .i mi cusku dei .i pu lo nu cusku dei .e di'u kei mi ze'u tadni so'i za'e jbocizra .i mi za'e jbotadni .i mi za'e jbocli .i mi zivle lo clani temci lo nu cilre .i ku'i mi na terpa lo nu binxo .i pe'a ma'a na binxo lo za'e malcinki .i ma'a binxo ba'a lo ba'e cinri .u'i mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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