From 33Xe9SwgJBl4H6IAHJUGCI6EH.8KIHKF76JCKKCHACNKQLO.8KI@groups.bounces.google.com Wed Apr 07 23:30:18 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <33Xe9SwgJBl4H6IAHJUGCI6EH.8KIHKF76JCKKCHACNKQLO.8KI@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzlFj-0001cw-3H for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:30:17 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf711725gwj.16 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:30:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=FDiE8o9nJOWVuxE9gwA/kfM3yAomNl/8YKU8PLoT5KA=; b=oqUS7uhI79TXyDXazOPoEB4eImSNoaDbcANXrGwdEhvMymmgYNa6G9A8tvmNaACPOP jI2/kjIJCDzICRxUMkKh7Hjjan5ZiUebMRoSboySS1eiNe55/QMUlc9vEAaBtxZ78L3C Wr3fMT/3ytxZUNk+TvBtNrcgVmt/mHVpYHE78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3X5V0qxUmT31IxOSnBwz4Qn05FppuYL+vvmtT3wgnl6P5KK0Fn2jVdh6X9HtKj2uO5 IT2L6WrhTAG4yxlbBP6w9aMJFPhkhOgP6A2Bdh2wgHKrlibRuQpUDl97+GRqkD3QieM5 VVxG8aOuMSTCl/hIl5IQ/8AjeM+PY/BhV0PDo= Received: by 10.91.91.8 with SMTP id t8mr832542agl.46.1270708189993; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.36.203 with SMTP id u11ls1154335fad.2.p; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.135 with SMTP id c7mr782149fah.23.1270708187788; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.135 with SMTP id c7mr782148fah.23.1270708187743; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 11si1221215fxm.14.2010.04.07.23.29.46; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.210 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.210; Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1605458bwz.10 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.70.65 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:29:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:29:45 +0300 Received: by 10.204.11.22 with SMTP id r22mr6444801bkr.120.1270708185508; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tangent the second: ASCII From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lamelnyk@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/d319d5cadc183c24 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/143c482065b6f9f0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255585b202ad5b0483b3ce26 --0003255585b202ad5b0483b3ce26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/4/7 Christopher Doty > I'm wondering how closely tied people are to the idea that, if a > hypothetical thing happened where Lojban got, say, tone, it should stick > with ASCII-only characters? > Our keyboards already have too much buttons for 30 symbols, lojban needs an= d for the 10 fingers, most of us have. So, =E9ntering a f=FAnny ch=E1racters = will require a lot of extra finger travel, therefore should be avoided, where possible. Unless we will get a better input devices or really urgent needs. --=20 mu'o mi'e lex --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0003255585b202ad5b0483b3ce26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2010/4/7 Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>= ;
I'm wondering how closely tied people are to the idea that, if a hypoth= etical thing happened where Lojban got, say, tone, it should stick with ASC= II-only characters?


Our keyboards already have= too much buttons for 30 symbols, lojban needs and for the 10 fingers, most= of us have. So, =E9ntering a f=FAnny ch=E1racters will require a lot of ex= tra finger travel, therefore should be avoided, where possible. Unless we w= ill get a better input devices or really urgent needs.

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