From 3eNq9SwcJBlw8S8IHOMAG4CF.6IGFID54HAIIAF8ALIOJM.6IG@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 06:31:02 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3eNq9SwcJBlw8S8IHOMAG4CF.6IGFID54HAIIAF8ALIOJM.6IG@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nzros-0002Ts-Ll for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:31:01 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf990034ywh.28 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=FCgS2Pz+y1hJwV5rZdkDxk/cf7sEamvXaYZT/QbXvzk=; b=qpZ6q3BtIc+qewCVDyJpybfQoiFmc5oQK1zqPCuVFngXXOQ7OZWF6YrG0hGusAhAy1 GrYOsdrNKwo/XxouWu4dvoA3Rxb9w6zQNchgkd43ikaFNAr1BhriC39xZ1xVnOehkfM2 gUhyZ99569vC4FFqqg/fxHS8Ytl8t1wqx06Gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=E1qW0J2E3qK2oYAVmNS0gDCObHJF9U5wpiD1MD7t4cQmsn7BzIB73RcsVgKro2Mh0t 7Pz7AVZlhLMFWUqw0REF8cKqdMNpvD8+Pb3Yb1MGcmOLeBRKsbqo9+/17+2fox+dZC0H sWDGRvtS2XzD1axDDyTtGtRJltJ9Y+6AhUD1g= Received: by 10.91.91.9 with SMTP id t9mr33860agl.50.1270733432863; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.68 with SMTP id o4ls3070795bkd.1.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.48.214 with SMTP id s22mr10603bkf.6.1270733430071; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.48.214 with SMTP id s22mr10602bkf.6.1270733430007; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f43.google.com (mail-ww0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e24si89977bke.2.2010.04.08.06.30.28; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.43; Received: by mail-ww0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 24so63980wwb.30 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.146 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 06:30:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100408134620.fa2eed29.felix.duesenburg@googlemail.com> References: <20100408134620.fa2eed29.felix.duesenburg@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 07:30:28 -0600 Received: by 10.216.90.202 with SMTP id e52mr52573wef.150.1270733428692; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tangent the second: ASCII From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/d319d5cadc183c24 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5175ac3ef9c53cf7 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ee579f18c80483b9aeb0 --0016e6d7ee579f18c80483b9aeb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Felix wrot= e: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:29:45 +0300 > Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > > > 2010/4/7 Christopher Doty > > > > Our keyboards already have too much buttons for 30 symbols, lojban need= s > and > > for the 10 fingers, most of us have. So, =E9ntering a f=FAnny ch=E1ract= ers will > > require a lot of extra finger travel, therefore should be avoided, wher= e > > possible. Unless we will get a better input devices or really urgent > needs. > > ea > > -- > > mu'o mi'e lex > > > > > Almost every keyboard outside of US English has simple ways to access > accented keys, either directly or via a dead key, which causes as little > effort as using Shift for typing a capital. > Just more proof that the U.S. as a whole is a country of conceited bastards= . ;) (I have a standard U.S. keyboard- Linux lets me use the Caps Lock as a dead key for just that purpose- and while I don't remember the name of it, there's a Win program that let's me do that as well.) > > For fiddlers, Microsoft offers a free tool here: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665.aspx > Linux users would know how to do that anyway. So, really no big deal i.m.= o. > > Muho mihe FelikS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e6d7ee579f18c80483b9aeb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Felix <felix.duese= nburg@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:29:45 +0300
Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com= > wrote:

> 2010/4/7 Christopher Doty <= suomichris@gmail.com>
>
> Our keyboards already have too much buttons fo= r 30 symbols, lojban needs and
> for the 10 fingers, most of us have. So, =E9ntering a f=FAnny ch=E1rac= ters will
> require a lot of extra finger travel, therefore should be avoided, whe= re
> possible. Unless we will get a better input devices or really urgent n= eeds.
> ea
> --
> mu'o mi'e lex
>
>
Almost every keyboard outside of US English has simple ways to access= accented keys, either directly or via a dead key, which causes as little e= ffort as using Shift for typing a capital.

Just mo= re proof that the U.S. as a whole is a country of conceited bastards. ;) (I= have a standard U.S. keyboard- Linux lets me use the Caps Lock as a dead k= ey for just that purpose- and while I don't remember the name of it, th= ere's a Win program that let's me do that as well.)

For fiddlers, Microsoft offers a free tool here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665.aspx
Linux users would know how to do that anyway. So, really no big deal i.m.o.=

Muho mihe FelikS

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