From 30N-9SwQNBrkoglZoglZ.nostr.mtkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 06:53:51 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <30N-9SwQNBrkoglZoglZ.nostr.mtkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzsAv-0000qr-SR for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:51 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf1040967qyk.1 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=eAfNDY7X/AykzXDkZ61Ss+tit+X34xl/dEdECAV5jdc=; b=JWr8aSEdzEoP7QwmNedYI3fUxFRrG7MR3GZkZ47eeKOaIz5NjaMPIuT1N8xhsyf3bU Csd7uhZZqKopfYbIUymWX0gSqlWnXe5GG8ro86u2mJU9xwQjjFax19OpZYDFcUyHBY74 2s3SNjgaUQDqXFFnj3A4lq3GmKg5aNzxZq/B4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=63WUI7PyZbTArXooAsPLLPQLZOZqQYdXX4CbwnKogsfGWCtMu5daHVBWLEmbcucVuI 0UfD7vk0cAizyJbSLyrXrtgrb7xXngTqtzx5F2Jyubq8t7DahZU5YDkTrjAa5fnMnJjX XvWaajA/8edfW2MWu3y6cjCzrNiAux67VQb9A= Received: by 10.224.1.105 with SMTP id 41mr6391qae.27.1270734800816; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.41.66 with SMTP id n2ls2006506qae.3.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.52.208 with SMTP id j16mr17942qag.12.1270734797979; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.52.208 with SMTP id j16mr17941qag.12.1270734797953; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si20863qyk.9.2010.04.08.06.53.17; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oepoZ8SyVIw8kQ/K1Qfc7r3r2iYOgw0fy5I37kOBdfE= c=1 sm=0 a=Kcb7VaZqTAEA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=DgODRUopZ-CKiCSvA0oA:9 a=igx9b-1apN1-OPpZUB5RYJPV7csA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:57625] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 3B/2C-22422-CCFDDBB4; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:53:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AF71509 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: "any John" -- is it possible to translate this? Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:53:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5fead1bc-c9b4-42cd-83b4-f01661ff1bd1@x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201004080953.14960.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/287899a54f24bd6a X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/333e55ed724462ce Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 08 April 2010 08:52:07 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:27 AM, tijlan wrote: > > I understand that "ro da zo'u la djon po'u da cu broda" differs from > > "la djon po'u ro da cu broda" because a different value is picked for > > each "da" according to its own scope =A0order; > > It's not just that. In "ro da zo'u la djon po'u da cu broda", for each > value of "da" we could pick a different John. In "la djon po'u ro da > cu broda", the same John has to be picked for all the values of "da". What happens if you pick a value of "da" that isn't John? Pierre --=20 I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.