From 3fv69SwwJBoYm1ksqlnkxsovqwksv.mywvytlkxqyyqvoq1y4z2.myw@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 09:04:44 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3fv69SwwJBoYm1ksqlnkxsovqwksv.mywvytlkxqyyqvoq1y4z2.myw@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzuDb-0000dI-SE for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:43 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf2246246vws.16 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=OzI5a3LjL1C/Pi8ebSJolzAOOm/P4z+GuLeTxmPiH2s=; b=lQKZnsJyK+mrkDVSsBPg1v5fPXsfcZindb7Z89of3KCj4zIbBJA8v/rhV4QYiLjzhI im63K6Df6eOXXl5EmHycMSjqUeKzKNdDLXGl2WlCrTSU4WllmcLHrK8s+fyjnMHFCd2R tST32T56U142mpEqfNP2x8u95Y/FxyItFFblQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=WcsRbQsu3t89lO/1BrF5nFJMmXLocQQAHb2930/a1cW4SVt3IhvfeIZDY8zF6HTb+s 56KcBzNqxFpU8cGRAj8VossO+nSPiNINp6ANqIGvW76gQTEz45VUMiVYvNmkt63UGmkj 68vJKJB3HgSiXoBRivqacxwMaGpEeUzUg8+Qg= Received: by 10.220.88.99 with SMTP id z35mr31649vcl.34.1270742654912; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.68.217 with SMTP id w25ls1964253vci.1.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.161.79 with SMTP id q15mr77949vcx.24.1270742653841; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.161.79 with SMTP id q15mr77948vcx.24.1270742653814; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 21si538560vws.1.2010.04.08.09.04.12; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.24 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.92.24; Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so717894qwi.25 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.87.140 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:04:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BBDF1B2.1030508@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:04:12 -0400 Received: by 10.229.192.68 with SMTP id dp4mr506637qcb.36.1270742652603; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tangent the second: ASCII From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.24 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/d319d5cadc183c24 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/1fc4ee3c6ff0068e Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 8 Apr 2010, at 16:57, Craig Daniel wrote: > >> Still, if my notes from that period were found by another jbopre, I wouldn't expect them to be readable at a glance > even by somebody fluent; ergo, Cyrillic is not de facto a standard form of Lojban writing. > > "Spaceless" Lojban is surely illegible "at a glance". And, while technically valid, it's not part of the language as anybody uses it. (Outside of examples about how breaking it up into normal Lojban is done, that is.) Note the phrase "de facto" in there - spaceless is the same way, since it's valid but not part of the standards as actually used by actual Lojbanists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.