From 3Rwe-SwYKBlgBE9101BE910D.EH6BE910D6EE6B46HEKFI.2EC@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 09:42:10 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3Rwe-SwYKBlgBE9101BE910D.EH6BE910D6EE6B46HEKFI.2EC@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nzunt-00032v-En for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:42:10 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf1215766qyk.1 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:41:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:x-vr-score :x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score:message-id:date:from:user-agent :x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=cQXUiuuzqk7o8H4seIlWbZmq3Bcr3pIQRbzVgSKN/18=; b=ROmZjRq4CO90COk2AOCyUklPrbxps35TigdAAwHmj27yQFyyWFjDVRxvneSxHnMcL/ /f/sQdsgg0J9RFLTXV07UjFz/HZyQIUtZ9g3MaIoiuc8uZIMuQ3rO6W0c00nm9LIl4i3 Y5XaFrXIDlHZNaEzpT8AqUwMKUqBk16+PZZ9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-vr-score:x-authority-analysis:x-cm-score :message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=VbN1+3reuE73juK866DvgjcNc3myLANwGmOutZUQizZGCtECfpKy0Mjrr6aUBQM4hN EvLW8O+smWdg3Un3cDk8f+fGCo8JlraCcuaQT4neJF+1qp0f8+dnFX26hfwofn3Fuqcc T7wEpRp/ja+n90Wrq7BCfp0D69lwb+CfV9oqw= Received: by 10.224.18.23 with SMTP id u23mr17730qaa.1.1270744903115; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.38.138 with SMTP id b10ls2061099qae.4.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.84.201 with SMTP id k9mr41170qal.6.1270744901827; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.27.37 with SMTP id e37mr464613agj.9.1270743011866; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.27.37 with SMTP id e37mr464563agj.9.1270743008555; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si12664yxe.10.2010.04.08.09.10.07; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.240.46 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.240.46; Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100408161007.JYXT18026.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:10:07 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([70.187.225.124]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 34A71e00E2hfrC6024A7r9; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:10:07 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=u9aaE4Pfr0xy9UvPxuh9qFR1i2SV5RyaXjJQawTgqeY= c=1 sm=1 a=Jk7DClovP2YA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=lsg66w07okjF3vGJL2g+Jw==:17 a=L_eWhQJm3-FYsrLYd_YA:9 a=7MmkeAbGnrQVWHi9ck8NAG2QqFMA:4 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=lsg66w07okjF3vGJL2g+Jw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4BBDFFC8.9090902@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:09:44 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407202259.GM3000@nvg.org> <20100407205925.GP11541@digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20100407205925.GP11541@digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.240.46 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/591bacef71ab8253 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Robin Lee Powell wrote: > I'm proposing setting a group of experienced Lojbanists with the > task of making these sorts of decisions; if you're worried, join up > and help. Your proposal doesn't say that. It says: > The BPFK should be open to anyone who is seriously working on learning the language That includes newbies who want to learn the language, but haven't actually gotten the experience. And it could include people whose motivation for learning the language is rather heavily oriented towards the "unlike other languages" goal. > As far as I'm aware, no-one is proposing the sorts of things you're > worried about. Shall Lojban become officially hexadecimal, anyone? %^( guaspi exists and was invented by someone who qualified for the byfy under your proposal at the time. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.