From 3UxO-SwoJBnAXXZZOaPWOgUaOWZ.QcaZcXPObUccUZSUfcidg.Qca@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 10:33:36 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3UxO-SwoJBnAXXZZOaPWOgUaOWZ.QcaZcXPObUccUZSUfcidg.Qca@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nzvbd-0007C5-UH for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:36 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf2312218vws.16 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7JMi8Bym//71XfpiSPbRKz0W7GbZ/m810CGm8FEmh6I=; b=nYnc6TI37LWwRuzC9HlkDdc6G027MoZYS70r0PtRq5krJn3xbI8MEzp8jv/X4jf0yz UUP6xivf+j8EZPhVbx21SNB+MF787q+ayJlTRENdzZ/IGnhGCTXMupfZU0eNzzt5SlRq KfV+ZyzPB8j/4oQwhnd3wgyy8TmAMz4VNvZjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=a+X4a/31O7wgmKpsRkm7EC6t+0/+0LraPY7ZRuikvp3xdpS21MKnOG0C9riJ6ziFOe rrH9M2OAHONPGCDT05BskyIl1E0jA/BPjjkeUZx6u9L6AHBc+5sWRc7vjeJ96wOG6U/P wvMsVDUoCE0ELZ4IFDu0iYYdBFr8LnVgteQ4M= Received: by 10.220.122.78 with SMTP id k14mr40590vcr.40.1270747987760; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.87.130 with SMTP id w2ls1988876vcl.4.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.164.205 with SMTP id f13mr118476vcy.2.1270747986721; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.164.205 with SMTP id f13mr118475vcy.2.1270747986702; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f193.google.com (mail-qy0-f193.google.com [209.85.221.193]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si724743vws.0.2010.04.08.10.33.05; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.193; Received: by mail-qy0-f193.google.com with SMTP id 31so3756363qyk.20 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.212 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:33:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBE0713.6030903@lojban.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC3CE4.6080803@lojban.org> <4BBDECA2.5000500@lojban.org> <4BBE0713.6030903@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:33:04 -0300 Received: by 10.229.189.16 with SMTP id dc16mr642685qcb.92.1270747984310; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a457f838b86108e Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> >> BTW, the LLG is listed there as the regulator for Lojban, but with >> Robin's proposal that would have to change to the BPFK. > > The BPFK is a committee of LLG and has no independent authority, and can > have none. =A0(As I see it, Robin's proposal requires LLG membership > approval.) As I see it, it doesn't. The BPFK can just declare its independence and establish its own charter. If the business organization in turn wants to give its approval and recognize the BPFK as an independent body, all the better of course, and it would also have to approve, for example, any eventual financing by the LLG of a publication of BPFK material. But this is not a proposal addressed to the LLG membership. It is a proposal addressed to the Lojban community, to create a language regulator that will take care of regulating their language. > But other than timing, I am not sure that I see much difference. =A0The > membership and the Board both recognized the need to delegate the authori= ty > to a quasi-independent body. The people involved in LLG and BPFK are mostly the same people, so it makes little difference in practice, but the idea as I understand it is for the BPFK to become an independent body, only concerned with the language, not a quasi-independent committee of a business organization. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.