From 3mBe-SwgSBrkqkonvdkkchfhsZkjhmfcnl.nqfkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 10:51:46 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3mBe-SwgSBrkqkonvdkkchfhsZkjhmfcnl.nqfkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NzvtF-0008Qo-GE for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:46 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf754436pwi.16 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6+4+hlySBrC6WnGkrMdHnGpnc+t8nhVA41dsVwbp+uY=; b=WdZbFxh0/F5mQkcM2pNa/88q1DbS4gUhT/s/kBg5sKky6YSZeIiWGrEE0vaOs+HIyc DU0zT3mydXH2jTBB1WS/NuJ5VYWL2wAd0NutA+TyRogszcXs2PbmPcPKIIRCdoGHYlmd aCbEwfY+/sQ6ixenDvGShyAqOe/4TSugA8vJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=sfnjK3xoyVFAbsoBBA/RNfJIi8to9PVsQqIiisIDWGsaAQHsoGahFTHaUfCjuNfKDH 4Ul4nFPV8sVGqjFCkA+n8FUHkVl7K9TEJldnYc7w7hYjxqD8Kf3pdzKoZVBiP7NzCSCY CcZDdG1KXX1IqIPFK0rtJm3YSuZyohFsWIMGY= Received: by 10.142.248.3 with SMTP id v3mr31837wfh.45.1270749080752; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.8.28 with SMTP id 28ls1883579wfh.0.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.2.26 with SMTP id 26mr84132wfb.29.1270749078699; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.2.26 with SMTP id 26mr84131wfb.29.1270749078681; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si55149pzk.10.2010.04.08.10.51.16; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.4 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.4; Received: (qmail 30440 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 17:51:16 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2010 17:51:16 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nzvso-0008PZ-FW for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:51:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:51:14 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. Message-ID: <20100408175114.GF11541@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC3CE4.6080803@lojban.org> <4BBDECA2.5000500@lojban.org> <4BBE0713.6030903@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.4 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/5e2307041e218c21 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 02:33:04PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote= : > > But other than timing, I am not sure that I see much difference. > > =A0The membership and the Board both recognized the need to > > delegate the authority to a quasi-independent body. >=20 > The people involved in LLG and BPFK are mostly the same people, so > it makes little difference in practice, but the idea as I > understand it is for the BPFK to become an independent body, only > concerned with the language, not a quasi-independent committee of > a business organization. I had no particular intention of completely splitting out the BPFK; I don't see the point. The community considers the LLG in charge of the language, and I see no need to rock the boat in that respect. My intention is to bring to the LLG membership a proposal for the BPFK's quasi-independence under a new charter. If that doesn't work (which would, it seems to me, be the LLG over-riding the community), then we can talk about your plan. :) -Robin --=20 They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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