From 3tBm-SwgSBtcKEIHP7EE6B9BM3EDBG96HF.HK9EHC43G9HH9E79KHNIL.5HF@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 08 11:00:55 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3tBm-SwgSBtcKEIHP7EE6B9BM3EDBG96HF.HK9EHC43G9HH9E79KHNIL.5HF@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nzw1y-0000lW-0i for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:54 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf756358pwi.16 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=Fo3Mxw75gYdXc4LyZtAUyIjo2jyK9JykcabGiLRET6s=; b=ThMLFb1j0gSonZo6I+12VBMJlNqhgs4syEObrAkl9fdtvOtJ9JUIl/ytGIvvnI1Wmb qPYdrU4XM5hVk2kf0qGUfd8AGJabiUkuxt8FUXA08FYr1Td694cCBv7kyKFWhlVmWXJc i0u7B5ergcY+DrWlLDFhHsHC78rajNQnhfPdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=pY7kK2R0v8ADwYvUEindGY7/6L4CMKTWdJHptEV3Ep0gMClOVx1BBYZZHK9MLixqjJ ZZVjyjslWSXAliKO92uxJypQAO9mdJ7gbUGzDSEgoZ9RihAf+F5ph2Ft4RXuCbQ6b5Kh Xhzr9HafjCpEHnpTOESvj2G71kHSLjuNeD5kI= Received: by 10.141.4.8 with SMTP id g8mr58551rvi.7.1270749620576; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.188.20 with SMTP id q20ls39934rvp.3.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.2 with SMTP id b2mr86491rvn.27.1270749619031; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.2 with SMTP id b2mr86490rvn.27.1270749619010; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si55906pzk.8.2010.04.08.11.00.18; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.8; Received: (qmail 20824 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 18:00:18 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 8 Apr 2010 18:00:18 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nzw1Y-0000gs-R9 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 11:00:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 11:00:16 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. Message-ID: <20100408180016.GH11541@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407202259.GM3000@nvg.org> <4BBDFDF2.7040100@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4BBDFDF2.7040100@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.8 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d769529764db4a57 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:01:54PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Luke Bergen wrote: > >Just to clarify, we're not talking about huge re-constructional > >changes here are we? We're talking about things like xorlo and > >dotside. If I have to re-learn the gismu that I know now and > >re-understand a new tense system, I would change my vote. But as > >I suspect that what RLPowell is talking about is nothing so > >drastic as all that, I'm ok with change. > > I see nothing in Robin's proposal that restricts the degree of > change that could be permitted. Except for the idea that we're not surrounded entirely by assholes. Have some fucking faith in the rest of the Lojban community! .o'o nai sai -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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