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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a2126d043a9d4b76 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > > For newbies and oldbies with failing midterm memories (I'm pretty good on problems in Loglan in 1977), could some one review what dot whatsis is I think you mean the "dot side". That's the replacement of the doi-la-lai-la'i restriction on cmevla by the requirement that all cmevla begin with a pause. >and what (aside from 'lo') is wrong (or was) with gadris. What was right with them? :) I think the main problem was forcing a hidden quantifier (i.e. a bridi operator) on what should basically be simply a term creator. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.