From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEObk-d0EGgRw-ENA@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 08 17:19:13 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f139.google.com ([209.85.222.139]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O01wB-0007dC-Pl for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:19:12 -0700 Received: by pzk3 with SMTP id 3sf726891pzk.28 for ; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:19:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=DgRnHOfuopmq789yzqO3b0s44XwgtBlhfpzdz495g7Y=; b=J7Qn+qNO+DBtANr7iNcXnBVdSkSpTHQvdzjwrXAoa4/yfDbmQRXw9bbmJaJzdWsHLs qFiBdWVCc6elGA+lDkNV71WNPcGFWD7d8HOgxkci6pJ1CHgtDwg2aMPFgfPd9GayPgw4 lVckbDV5ligvC+JjfwBoWQpmtwVw/JU3MuySU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=NiCsx5HfKNBs4UsKnBRyrmCdebOLMpEbMdTNbA+l5+VEv9QefJ/SfsUoXRQ/IdKmkN cmgLpt9YJfRvcfwOnXfdXU3gVxJhDKZmUegAb1CEFCIPYiiOikJndHfxelwS3H+wVV/e dncYn6HnapN6bUetMu6ybsjrN2lRYZNGTfaFM= Received: by 10.142.249.35 with SMTP id w35mr68471wfh.48.1270772326243; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.248.9 with SMTP id v9ls2476wfh.1.p; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.136.7 with SMTP id o7mr155222wfn.12.1270772321769; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.136.7 with SMTP id o7mr155221wfn.12.1270772321745; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si118152pzk.7.2010.04.08.17.18.41; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.5; Received: (qmail 12427 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2010 00:18:41 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Apr 2010 00:18:41 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O01vk-0007cr-38 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:18:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:18:40 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. Message-ID: <20100409001840.GZ11541@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBC3CE4.6080803@lojban.org> <4BBDECA2.5000500@lojban.org> <20100408163450.GY11541@digitalkingdom.org> <20100408195226.GB18440@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100408195226.GB18440@sdf.lonestar.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/ae2b16663b7ddfca Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 07:52:27PM +0000, Minimiscience wrote: > de'i li 08 pi'e 04 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Robin Lee Powell .fy. cusku > zoi skamyxatra. > > That's *ALWAYS* been the case. I've *begged* people to join the > > BPFK. Begged and begged and begged and begged. I always get > > utter silence. > > .skamyxatra > > Really? I've never encountered any of these requests. Maybe I > should go on IRC more. It may be a timing thing; I think it's been 4 or more years since the last one. I meant posts to the main list, though. > Besides, I thought that in order to join the BPFK you had to be a > member of the LLG, which required "competence" in one of several > specific fields. Nope, and we've never enforced thet competence thing anyways. > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, I suppose I'll request > membership. My qualifications are: > > - borderline autistic, obsessive-compulsive, pedantic undergraduate majoring > in computational mathematics > - currently working on Haskell/Perl/C libraries for manipulating Lojban words > & text: > - deep-seated & irrational dislike of cultural {gismu} and the tiki > - knowledge of mathematical operators beyond just the high-school level stuff > in VUhU > - desire to rewrite the entire language specification in a highly formal & > precise manner modeled after the ISO C99 standard. I started this once but > never got past the morphology section. > - desire to rewrite the official {gismu} & {cmavo} lists *without* the > arbitrary 100-ish-character limit on the definition fields (Have you ever > heard of tab-separated values?), merging in definition fragments that were > relegated to the notes fields and generally making everything more > consistent, formal, and normative. I once tried this as part of an attempt > at typesetting a decent dictionary (first with XML, then with JSON) but > never got very far. > - desire to usurp control of the BPFK and LLG as part of my over-arching goal > of world domination. Time permitting, of course. Sounds fine to me. I'm about to restart the BPFK list; I'll post where to go at that time. As a side comment, the cmavo and gismu lists largely predate the concept of TSV files; they're from a time when COBOL was a major language. > So, do you send me a funny hat, or do I have to make my own? You have to make your own. -Robin -- They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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