From lojban+bncCM28uMPfHhDqofvdBBoEDDK4hA@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 00:02:28 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O08ER-0000lg-RB for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:28 -0700 Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32sf782070pvb.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=M0md9a2pqLsY2G9EfSak47CPugIAOpH00pnaLKzN5zw=; b=S2gU4hwF7LOjcXU6CLyoNIFWbZW8nyoPeeOO/8UFD7t7YcGSv4VhFnfCv13XTYHzUL jJbXEjoZaU3X6rDyna2H4GsfK9z8ZfJ2nOJfxLBkNiXenJnogPsWDaP9CMrXMxMtlJA1 0df4gVL+XZqNEQMZsZw6asgb0j6b3VOxPIoHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=ueNBF/EtdSKqxcsAPluMORW2SqmiH1Pw34bFiV3J3Uv9DMdFpGtQupsm8Ui4KKcnDo qtzy4qjSJoUJIsKvGvzlYe+GLgZHI9GofDqq3NI6ZO4uq62vTpkRRaN6u68dXbCc6gam bTYRL6/I3p2J0elI/GU8OdK1KxM7SLTfs81zo= Received: by 10.140.237.17 with SMTP id k17mr127350rvh.4.1270796522712; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.188.20 with SMTP id q20ls101262rvp.3.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.91.10 with SMTP id t10mr215145rvl.28.1270796520415; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.7 with SMTP id b7mr210825rvn.22.1270795092463; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.7 with SMTP id b7mr210824rvn.22.1270795092434; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from socrates.hocat.ca (socrates.hocat.ca [76.10.188.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si182805pzk.0.2010.04.08.23.38.12; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 76.10.188.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of tom.prince@ualberta.net) client-ip=76.10.188.53; Received: from loki.hocat.ca (loki.hocat.ca [69.165.168.141]) by socrates.hocat.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id DDB00229D for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (nullmailer pid 18783 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:27:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:27:38 -0400 From: Tom Prince To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. Message-ID: <20100408182737.GA22986@loki.hocat.ca> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100407202259.GM3000@nvg.org> <4BBDFDF2.7040100@lojban.org> <20100408180016.GH11541@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100408180016.GH11541@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 76.10.188.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of tom.prince@ualberta.net) smtp.mail=tom.prince@ualberta.net X-Original-Sender: tom.prince@ualberta.net Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d514425c65a54fd5 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 11:00:16AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:01:54PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > > Luke Bergen wrote: > > >Just to clarify, we're not talking about huge re-constructional > > >changes here are we? We're talking about things like xorlo and > > >dotside. If I have to re-learn the gismu that I know now and > > >re-understand a new tense system, I would change my vote. But as > > >I suspect that what RLPowell is talking about is nothing so > > >drastic as all that, I'm ok with change. > > > > I see nothing in Robin's proposal that restricts the degree of > > change that could be permitted. > > Except for the idea that we're not surrounded entirely by assholes. > > Have some fucking faith in the rest of the Lojban community! And the fact that if that was going to occur, then it would occur just as much, and probably in multiple divergent directions, if usage was left to decide. Tom Prince -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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