From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCYvPzdBBoEwPC11g@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 05:31:46 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f198.google.com ([209.85.217.198]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0DN8-0000je-0T for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:46 -0700 Received: by gxk22 with SMTP id 22sf173337gxk.4 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YGQ7nCEgjBoCJBNl4Ih8UlaK542S1ED/Z8FDlq8bOSY=; b=vitBprM7F7uNOQASyD5PIfxEjqygL51vtJAMxpBaEabqeRFMgIB8VREehecQMM791l v8sf9k1NaIqpgPHk1ERXdoxOvdSA9PbwJHIKsF9FRgxPfRyPPr57KS8ic0sB8Xulq/WT EViqXgIxIW2LfDNrHUVfBZg3JATiNZQ4jtHqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HUo8zDqTwyfsrPZZ2q3F9w5ejfjo/R+6gfVyMEqnC1Q2wzTNv1zyL3rFY9TdcK7aab P5HfgCwSyYuLW6ljELM9M36xh/cq6RyHqH70vtx/OXDDiULVeCl3vU59qymNnvkxJo6y 206kzagXhuib7czH6bDE0NAYzHeXNBmnWh/Lg= Received: by 10.91.93.10 with SMTP id v10mr25793agl.18.1270816280704; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.6.77 with SMTP id 13ls229736bky.3.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.84 with SMTP id a20mr1969bke.3.1270816278094; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.84 with SMTP id a20mr1968bke.3.1270816278062; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f173.google.com (mail-qy0-f173.google.com [209.85.221.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si1365175bkc.5.2010.04.09.05.31.16; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.173; Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so3332919qyk.17 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.212 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:31:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:31:15 -0300 Received: by 10.229.214.7 with SMTP id gy7mr2551736qcb.12.1270816276033; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Yet Another Tangent: my first cmavo definition From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/db7f825f58124ec4 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/96cacd24a5a721ee Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > > Here's the relevant part of the CLL: > > ******* > ******* > > The cmavo ``be'u'' expresses, roughly speaking, whether the emotion it > modifies is in response to something you don't have enough of, > something you have enough of, or something you have too much of. It is > more or less the attitudinal equivalent of the subjective quantifier > cmavo ``mo'a'', ``rau'', and ``du'e'' (these belong to selma'o PA, and > are discussed in Chapter 18). For example, > > 7.8) =A0.uiro'obe'unai > =A0 =A0[Yay!] [physical] [Enough!] > > might be something you say after a large meal which you enjoyed. Hmmm... CLL contradicts itself between the description and the example here= . In the description, it says be'u - be'ucu'i - be'unai correspond to "not enough" - "enough" - "too much", but in the example it uses "be'unai" for "enough", not for "too much". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.