From lojban+bncCJ2w4Zy_AhCXi_7dBBoEqdDBxQ@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 12:53:22 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0KGS-0004mc-ST for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:53:21 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf1721417gwj.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=lE6aM3WtQ7g5SHhthJNkRPNwXWeB4HCkJpw/kQTBzOA=; b=aSnJzB6PH+nKPsoUA3s6D+LCidbln2z+dmaBt3RRpEdXSZziNvFCiBDRdMYyrrCT8h 4WBC2fB9e6f7Grx4MLbgemkZgqgcw4EGuQy/MB1Dffyg2IEL4fevcmsbs1+KSHv0HsQf 6gBqrLK8Mnl4JekinTU9ca7nCB6ZRtKwHWiaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Yf8azZtjo48QyeL+Va8ysL0odeAyZXAgk/lUsImUwXvfwcojxeDpiIHp1SoJcFSlnt 0ECQxhPKf1GktUn9ItoSaCV+Z0+Ef6sI4lgh2yq0tEgWGG6RkPzJl71Fz96z6bz7Dxjl 1vqcGRc5/1fAMg4vTxjeoOhfswpZLu2s6ccUo= Received: by 10.91.56.20 with SMTP id i20mr137921agk.22.1270842775497; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.172.20 with SMTP id u20ls88786age.4.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.42.40 with SMTP id p40mr1032653agp.3.1270842772218; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.42.40 with SMTP id p40mr1032568agp.3.1270842770052; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f178.google.com (mail-gy0-f178.google.com [209.85.160.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si138471gxk.3.2010.04.09.12.52.48; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.178; Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3so1955365gyh.23 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.20 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:52:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBF783C.5020507@gmail.com> References: <4BBF505B.2050705@gmail.com> <4BBF783C.5020507@gmail.com> From: Christopher Doty Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:52:25 -0700 Received: by 10.100.56.9 with SMTP id e9mr759474ana.138.1270842765204; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Cultural fu'ivla: summary and list of the ISO generated ones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/f66e2fdee6af20a6 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d05bc30261f8577 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f88298962e560483d323c4 --001485f88298962e560483d323c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:55, Leo Molas wrote: > > I understand that the list seems awful, but they are not terrible. You > don't always talk about 7000 countries and their languages and > currencies. You don't know all their names. And, finally, no one forces > anyone to know all of them; My point, as articulated in my previous emails, is that it doesn't matter how many of them you know, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME. > if someone doesn't like a word, just creates > another one and use it. Which means that Lojban is completely useless as a means of writing anything about linguistics, or even finding stuff other people wrote about linguistics. I mean, I think I kind of understood this last part. I thought the idea was that Lojban would perhaps, at some point, serve a rather international function. If that's really not the goal, that's fine--I'll shut up and remove myself from the lists. Real languages do things that are WAY more mind-bending than Lojban; I have no reason to be interested in or study the language if it's only purpose is to mind-bend, since it fails at that, as far as I'm concerned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001485f88298962e560483d323c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:55, Leo Molas <leos.molas@gmail.com> wrote:

I understand that the list seems awful, but they are not terrible. You
don't always talk about 7000 countries and their languages and
currencies. You don't know all their names. And, finally, no one forces=
anyone to know all of them;

My point, as a= rticulated in my previous emails, is that it doesn't matter how many of= them you know, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME.
=A0
if someone doesn't like a word, just creates
another one and use it.

Which means that Lo= jban is completely useless as a means of writing anything about linguistics= , or even finding stuff other people wrote about linguistics.

I mean, I think I kind of understood this last part. =A0I th= ought the idea was that Lojban would perhaps, at some point, serve a rather= international function. =A0If that's really not the goal, that's f= ine--I'll shut up and remove myself from the lists. =A0Real languages d= o things that are WAY more mind-bending than Lojban; I have no reason to be= interested in or study the language if it's only purpose is to mind-be= nd, since it fails at that, as far as I'm concerned.=A0

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