From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLp_7dBBoESbkngw@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 13:53:55 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0LD6-0001tk-Ea for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:55 -0700 Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21sf1744910gwj.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=2aBjuMk/2ouqey0L9ypXYhfOw/9OIltm55y2+LXxMug=; b=nJ6NIGDWWtjDJ9lXfCNmty6U2boj0ggC6vG9wkg31cSZuCdpnChYOuvHpwRMt6U4Eg 0xxNuK7BkYZ8CrqPNqfOJZMDZaCy7gD3EPgC8OEKk7L5AWeOi3m67i/VVUlQvoj0qSp0 ygrgOSx4FvJRZY0q8zAwxHIZls9m69YpneMQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=1CtW/HlshcxVT41Gkxgw5wuXY0JcILRMM57j0T+lMo0w/XC7986q+1wA/G+q1/InmR OQ+ZAcmDpdiGxF3BEqhsn39i3EwiDlwYHEcKRgEfoX7PHX1c8B2yzLZcsUNOBu38kfHD jpxmlutogfbHrhobZs3cQdGJ6S4si/qx1d0hM= Received: by 10.90.125.12 with SMTP id x12mr145579agc.57.1270846411722; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.32.206 with SMTP id e14ls416277bkd.2.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.26 with SMTP id e26mr42201bkw.38.1270846410117; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.26 with SMTP id e26mr42200bkw.38.1270846410060; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h3si1843873bke.4.2010.04.09.13.53.28; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by mail-wy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 28so549665wyf.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.146 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:53:28 -0600 Received: by 10.216.181.69 with SMTP id k47mr351013wem.82.1270846408830; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Cultural gismu replacement lujvo now on jbovlaste. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/97387d388c4148fc X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/8193204dddb50664 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65b6140c330f60483d3fc99 --0016e65b6140c330f60483d3fc99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > > > 2010/4/9 Jonathan Jones > >> >> 1) To emphasize the "corresponds" aspect. >> > > But that is the reason to put in the ba'e last position. > >> >> 2) Shorter length ({mapti} does not have an XXV rafsi). >> > > Can we replace it with srana or ckini? > Yes, probably. Assuming that the "in aspect" bit isn't needed, srana would actually be better. (I used mapti because it has the "in aspect" place.) So: language - banra'a - "s1 pertains to language of s2/b2" culture - klura'a - "s1 pertains to culture of s2/k1" community - cemra'a - "s1 pertains to community s2/c2" religion - jdara'a - "s1 pertains to religion of s2/l2" nationality - selgu'era'a - "s1/sg1 pertains to country s2/sg2" geography - tutra'a - "s1 pertains to territory of s2/t2" > > -- > mu'o mi'e lex > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Oleksii Melnyk <= span dir=3D"ltr"><lamelnyk@gmail.c= om> wrote:


2010/4/9 Jonathan Jone= s <eyeonus@gmail.com>

1) To emphasize the &= quot;corresponds" aspect.

B= ut that is the reason to put in the ba'e last position.

2) Shorter length ({mapti} does not hav= e an XXV rafsi).

Can we replace= it with srana or ckini?

Yes, proba= bly. Assuming that the "in aspect" bit isn't needed, srana wo= uld actually be better. (I used mapti because it has the "in aspect&qu= ot; place.)

So:

language - banra'a - "s1 pertains to language of = s2/b2"=A0
culture - klura'a - "s1 pertains to culture of s= 2/k1"
community - cemra'a - "s1 pertains to community s2/= c2"=A0
religion - jdara'a - "s1 pertains to religion of s2/l2"
n= ationality - selgu'era'a - "s1/sg1 pertains to country s2/sg2&= quot;=A0
geography - tutra'a - "s1 pertains to territory of s2/= t2"
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