From lojban+bncCJGY6cDlFhDe6_7dBBoEroOfKw@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 16:19:20 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0NTn-0003Y3-Aq for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:19:19 -0700 Received: by pwi3 with SMTP id 3sf1141981pwi.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:19:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=i601mx82YlahFGKBVJJCfG5jYwNHZ7fgz9ka4N0H6Cg=; b=Rc9UlXxiJ3YBVAoqqfjMiW2BCE97cb4o5suSUWRve6SIRwemR+QE/VM7AVnHARCa7U V1+PBJs3xSL8CGYc/6PapJwXLNFaYfbP+KUp+TnI6syDvxDzUKkR0IGnvBda469fo+8/ SgBWIfUQ7lgFgao0dSoyW9sdXjhvfzmZitsbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=G3tV+hDHALzMZByEABuChf/ip8c3jHUlb3LHWprfr1O89LRHan418RnHAZhNHFs3NS ArSMbY3TfSJtLzUJRJ1xo+U9aj30YiVGMLhh1QAozvpkGE1+CAPcOhfJVpXp656Fg/bB DxVu8ko0s5zsmizZa0q09kXHshXTvBX/A14/Q= Received: by 10.141.12.7 with SMTP id p7mr102411rvi.21.1270855134537; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.141.188.20 with SMTP id q20ls529635rvp.3.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.18 with SMTP id b18mr124078rvn.29.1270855133210; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.124.18 with SMTP id b18mr124077rvn.29.1270855133188; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si345947pzk.8.2010.04.09.16.18.52; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.50; Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so3051098pwj.9 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.109.10 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <867212.21796.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBF9402.2070006@lojban.org> From: Oren Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:18:32 +0800 Received: by 10.142.1.35 with SMTP id 35mr623975wfa.26.1270855132091; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/2b0f21ea70f38f19 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I have always been confused by this ordering of klama's arguments. > Mentioning the end-point before the start-point just seems backwards to me. > > stevo I think the idea is that if you just had the x1 place filled, it still means 'go' and not 'come.' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.