From lojban+bncCK6u3p69DBDxjf_dBBoEUeaA0g@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 17:32:11 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0OcI-00081E-9T for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:32:11 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf3297204vws.16 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:32:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:received :references:to:subject:date:x-aol-ip:in-reply-to:x-mb-message-source :mime-version:from:x-mb-message-type:x-mailer:received:message-id :x-spam-flag:x-aol-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PI2O7Xo8mAGH9LyR9bGyuJIHKtscii5BETioki5fFls=; b=5pOgTlMwSgcnhZA0FFNYqIOYI/s3LVg/uA4nDP/XcM2hy2ToW3pXgSY4r5Cd7jfOuv tbbMbd+FGqFWd8jF60w41edaKHzbhw+syATJrZ0bRLcgomnCUD6q6RlO67cC3h4WJVHm Pxejib3QYKbGE21+gR4XDihTar0M8rk/LcFss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:references:to:subject:date:x-aol-ip :in-reply-to:x-mb-message-source:mime-version:from:x-mb-message-type :x-mailer:message-id:x-spam-flag:x-aol-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=LklYvpnI5j+HkX0kkEEYuahJoM1J21xFHLMKwGbhHVrz54P9pXEiCDly1zKNGLb12/ D/rLhccHLhPLlomMSCvQgLFjWSA3ozSLNc/UQ+Fdd0irFTtFoSaN9/m5E2maxGZVhDgN pTwb3i5bDpZjU2uloVm8Fa9ILA0NuOyO02EkQ= Received: by 10.220.47.158 with SMTP id n30mr60728vcf.47.1270859505136; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.47.17 with SMTP id l17ls248307vcf.5.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.161.79 with SMTP id q15mr245711vcx.24.1270859504044; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.161.79 with SMTP id q15mr245710vcx.24.1270859504000; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 31si4468064vws.4.2010.04.09.17.31.43; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of Thirderivative@aol.com designates 64.12.206.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.12.206.42; Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o3A0VZMK001474 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:31:35 -0400 Received: from Thirderivative@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id r.c7c.6d69677e (34946) for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 20:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.99]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA057-d3da4bbfc6e0212; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:31:31 -0400 Received: from webmail-d061 (webmail-d061.sim.aol.com [205.188.91.210]) by smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC034-d3da4bbfc6e0212; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:31:28 -0400 References: To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Funny Hat (Was Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay on the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community.) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:31:27 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.8.216.14 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Seth X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 31423-STANDARD Received: from 76.8.216.14 by webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com (205.188.91.210) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:31:27 -0400 Message-Id: <8CCA65C4B19791C-7E8-35F9@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: Thirderivative@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of Thirderivative@aol.com designates 64.12.206.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=Thirderivative@aol.com X-Original-Sender: thirderivative@aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/eeea28eda10588b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/201c3258dad6cc93 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CCA65C4B1E3BE0_7E8_69B0_webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com" ----------MB_8CCA65C4B1E3BE0_7E8_69B0_webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i love the whole klingon badge thing. lojban could do something like that. = it would totally by like leveling up in an rpg, or gaining a higher kyu ran= k in Go. people could ask one another what rank they are to determine the a= ppropriate level of complexity. it would be a cool motivator too. -----Original Message----- From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2010 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Funny Hat (Was Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay o= n the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community.) I don't know how much it would spur work rather than just acknowledge that = the work was done.=20 I didn't learn Klingon in order to get the level badge I have, but it's nic= e to have the badge. =20 stevo On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Matt Arnold wrote: Seriously, would it help spur work to be awarded a BPFK hat upon completion of a section? And mailed new badges for the hat for each new section completed? Because my Lojban-speaking girlfriend owns an automated robotic embroidery machine. -Matt On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Minimiscience wro= te: > de'i li 08 pi'e 04 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Robin Lee Powell .fy. cusku zoi > skamyxatra. >> That's *ALWAYS* been the case. I've *begged* people to join the >> BPFK. Begged and begged and begged and begged. I always get utter >> silence. > .skamyxatra > > Really? I've never encountered any of these requests. Maybe I should go= on > IRC more. Besides, I thought that in order to join the BPFK you had to b= e a > member of the LLG, which required "competence" in one of several specific > fields. > > Anyway, to get the ball rolling, I suppose I'll request membership. My > qualifications are: > - borderline autistic, obsessive-compulsive, pedantic undergraduate majo= ring > in computational mathematics > - currently working on Haskell/Perl/C libraries for manipulating Lojban = words > & text: > - deep-seated & irrational dislike of cultural {gismu} and the tiki > - knowledge of mathematical operators beyond just the high-school level = stuff > in VUhU > - desire to rewrite the entire language specification in a highly formal= & > precise manner modeled after the ISO C99 standard. I started this once= but > never got past the morphology section. > - desire to rewrite the official {gismu} & {cmavo} lists *without* the > arbitrary 100-ish-character limit on the definition fields (Have you ev= er > heard of tab-separated values?), merging in definition fragments that w= ere > relegated to the notes fields and generally making everything more > consistent, formal, and normative. I once tried this as part of an att= empt > at typesetting a decent dictionary (first with XML, then with JSON) but > never got very far. > - desire to usurp control of the BPFK and LLG as part of my over-arching= goal > of world domination. Time permitting, of course. > > So, do you send me a funny hat, or do I have to make my own? > > mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun. > > -- > li'a .e'i ca vondei .i mi na'e pu'i kufra loi vondei > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ----------MB_8CCA65C4B1E3BE0_7E8_69B0_webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 i love the whole klingon badge thing. loj= ban could do something like that. it would totally by like leveling up in a= n rpg, or gaining a higher kyu rank in Go. people could ask one another wha= t rank they are to determine the appropriate level of complexity. it would = be a cool motivator too.



-----= Original Message-----
From: MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2010 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: Funny Hat (Was Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Essay o= n the future of Lojban, with a simple poll for the community.)

I don't know how much it would spur work rather than just acknowledge = that the work was done.
I didn't learn Klingon in order to get the level badge I have, but it'= s nice to have the badge.
 
stevo

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Seriously, would it help spur wo= rk to be awarded a BPFK hat upon
completion of a section? And mailed new badges for the hat for each
new section completed? Because my Lojban-speaking girlfriend owns an
automated robotic embroidery machine.

-Matt


On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com> wrote:
> de'i li 08 pi'e 04 pi'e 2010 la'o fy. Robin Lee Powell .fy. cusku zoi<= br> > skamyxatra.
>> That's *ALWAYS* been the case.  I've *begged* people to join = the
>> BPFK.  Begged and begged and begged and begged.  I alway= s get utter
>> silence.
> .skamyxatra
>
> Really?  I've never encountered any of these requests.  Mayb= e I should go on
> IRC more.  Besides, I thought that in order to join the BPFK you = had to be a
> member of the LLG, which required "competence" in one of several speci= fic
> fields.
>
> Anyway, to get the ball rolling, I suppose I'll request membership. &n= bsp;My
> qualifications are:
>  - borderline autistic, obsessive-compulsive, pedantic undergradu= ate majoring
>   in computational mathematics
>  - currently working on Haskell/Perl/C libraries for manipulating= Lojban words
>   & text: <http://github.com/jwodder/jbobaf>
>  - deep-seated & irrational dislike of cultural {gismu} and t= he tiki
>  - knowledge of mathematical operators beyond just the high-schoo= l level stuff
>   in VUhU
>  - desire to rewrite the entire language specification in a highl= y formal &
>   precise manner modeled after the ISO C99 standard.  I star= ted this once but
>   never got past the morphology section.
>  - desire to rewrite the official {gismu} & {cmavo} lists *wi= thout* the
>   arbitrary 100-ish-character limit on the definition fields (Hav= e you ever
>   heard of tab-separated values?), merging in definition fragment= s that were
>   relegated to the notes fields and generally making everything m= ore
>   consistent, formal, and normative.  I once tried this as p= art of an attempt
>   at typesetting a decent dictionary (first with XML, then with J= SON) but
>   never got very far.
>  - desire to usurp control of the BPFK and LLG as part of my over= -arching goal
>   of world domination.  Time permitting, of course.
>
> So, do you send me a funny hat, or do I have to make my own?
>
> mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.
>
> --
> li'a .e'i ca vondei .i mi na'e pu'i kufra loi vondei
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed= to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
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>
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