From lojban+bncCNuStaWoDxCayP_dBBoEvykYbg@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 09 19:36:34 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f140.google.com ([209.85.210.140]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0QYh-0006G6-EC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:34 -0700 Received: by yxe4 with SMTP id 4sf1809943yxe.28 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:message-id:date :from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=leoC/EMnvwlg7DcFZnHbZHJAX7kcGhkpz2g5L7LfE+M=; b=CG+003MnjgVcswzvh95+QWPmXnlYXBD5cEM77MRdz+8tSa8pMxn6EQwBHdqeMcrwr1 iTjV8Hup9lH9YeRce92Z5JD0zddowRUiYLOJLzf7T0434nUnfXt3qf/5NtryQQHd53zp qcHbjI2zKz8mSU/6MVxU3/0ClOwnN9GFepsT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pZ4Lj9WY2ani1N+DeIWs3uzC70flsZnwJ6I0VyGgyJxLbRoRLXhIm7gr4XCC8R/JHX U0GKWb/YhEkDL4KPngN5s47u4XqlwkCitp1Kzt/i2jW8axjBSUZCFlZkQAxJeI0KD3a0 vqdF5JMZ7ua2dgEopPntwrrOjVEOUPn0N0S9o= Received: by 10.91.90.9 with SMTP id s9mr193667agl.43.1270866970440; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.68 with SMTP id o4ls487895bkd.1.p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.70 with SMTP id b6mr57286bka.37.1270866969286; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.70 with SMTP id b6mr57285bka.37.1270866969268; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f220.google.com (mail-bw0-f220.google.com [209.85.218.220]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si149009bwz.5.2010.04.09.19.36.08; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.220 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.220; Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so2776832bwz.12 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.34.81 with SMTP id k17mr958026bkd.78.1270866968056; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.67] (87-194-76-9.bethere.co.uk [87.194.76.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm14746026bkc.21.2010.04.09.19.36.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BBFE416.5000702@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:36:06 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Response to Robin's "Essay on the future of Lojban" References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <20100409014708.GB11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBF197D.6080601@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: <4BBF197D.6080601@lojban.org> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.220 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/33d26e8385fed297 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/af29fa177b676ddb Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob LeChevalier, On 09/04/2010 13:11: > Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 01:55:23PM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >> I also don't think that describing the lanugage is what we >> should be doing. We should be *declaring* the language. >=20 > I can live with your position, which is easier to sell to=20 > computer people and harder to sell to linguists. =20 I'm a linguist, and I think you're wrong on criteria for sellability to lin= guists. Even setting aside the question of what 'selling' means here. Not t= hat selling to linguists is an important or especially desirable goal. Curr= ently I think Lojban's main interest to linguistics would be (ingloriously,= IMO) for interactional sociolinguistics studying geek culture. --And. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.