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From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.149 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pascal.akihiko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d6bcb7f0f65773c9 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b85109f53e80483e21f01 --0016363b85109f53e80483e21f01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 10 April 2010 10:46, Stela Selckiku wrote: > Actually I can > quite easily understand sentences like "la .bastyn. se klama mi fu lo > karce" (I went to Boston in the car.) or "ma xe fanva fi lo glibau" > (What's a translation into English?), either written or spoken, as > well as producing them fluently. > To me, "ma xe fanva fi lo glibau" seems slightly easier than "la .bastyn. se klama mi fu lo karce", because I feel I can memorise "xe fanva fi" as a neat unit, whereas "se klama (fa) ... fu" appears as less than a neat unit. mi'e la tijlan mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On 10 April 2010 10:46, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Actually I can
quite easily understand sentences like "la .bastyn. se klama mi fu lo<= br> karce" (I went to Boston in the car.) or "ma xe fanva fi lo gliba= u"
(What's a translation into English?), either written or spoken, as
well as producing them fluently.

To me, "ma x= e fanva fi lo glibau" seems slightly easier than "la .bastyn. se = klama mi fu lo karce", because I feel I can memorise "xe fanva fi= " as a neat unit, whereas "se klama (fa) ... fu" appears as = less than a neat unit.

mi'e la tijlan
mu'o

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