From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDQiobeBBoElFcTWQ@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 11 01:16:41 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0sLK-0007yo-Dt; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:40 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf4820916qyk.1 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=aBv55z54E4qt36Hww2Eaf5oxkuh7gfCyADBb6DKla9Q=; b=zi367e9KFRnDcB8AhAEeq18ZK6KDkezzJX1iCg1EctSBfLPMKw0qPPMTOG2CnqqzmI W50CLADDGk2U7jEsOZgZ3tHyvJr7RdyT3KnCeavwF20iEhLE5oGFtCREtSLOLX/pYENx PzHkbVn4AndnMRHx/3IGfZfKyggoHhV5PiMVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DtCLPmrsMMbEac0xdjBg9Z2acDaJ3jD8+RmPqUq+3U/8HIhemXDe3RMM2c6/6yA9IJ JAXbpr1ryLMDEb76YUC4lp6VpIYxbOXThNyu9zrn7FE8rqi7TokiWSZN56jW0DyLH/+d wekv8B9FpUaE3De40C3z/ML98jNmwy6r14Ukk= Received: by 10.224.0.100 with SMTP id 36mr120540qaa.29.1270973776480; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.38.138 with SMTP id b10ls512387qae.4.p; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.56.195 with SMTP id z3mr236841qag.18.1270973775036; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.56.195 with SMTP id z3mr236840qag.18.1270973774992; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f48.google.com (mail-vw0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si411626qyk.9.2010.04.11.01.16.13; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.48; Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so2162963vws.21 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.167.140 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100411081142.GE20647@digitalkingdom.org> References: <8CCA65C4B19791C-7E8-35F9@webmail-d061.sysops.aol.com> <201004092223.46373.phma@phma.optus.nu> <8CCA6EDDA7E8943-1A3C-9147@webmail-d035.sysops.aol.com> <20100411081142.GE20647@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:16:13 -0400 Received: by 10.220.108.27 with SMTP id d27mr1098505vcp.232.1270973773680; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Funny Hat From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/eeea28eda10588b1 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/ef0f8b3f123739b9 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8de4f04c91470483f1a452 --00c09f8de4f04c91470483f1a452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I enjoy Go, but am impossibly bad. I mean that literally: I was > playing Go online regularily for several months, and was still 28 > kyu. I was informed (in a friendly fashion) by the person teaching > me that that was impossible: everyone progresses to about 25 kyu > over their first few games, but I had played dozens by that time. > :) Well that's unfortunate. It's a fun game. Maybe we should play a teaching game some time. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > Go is not actually all that obscure outside the US, and certainly > not in the Lojban community. You're really going to have to try > harder. :) > > I enjoy Go, but am impossibly bad. I mean that literally: I was > playing Go online regularily for several months, and was still 28 > kyu. I was informed (in a friendly fashion) by the person teaching > me that that was impossible: everyone progresses to about 25 kyu > over their first few games, but I had played dozens by that time. > :) > > -Robin > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 05:42:20PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > > wow. And here I was thinking that these two hobbies were so > > obscure that any one person having them both wasn't possible. > > I'll have to find a third hobby that only a few hundred people > > have ;) Maybe one of these: > > http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/01/alt-text-obscure-hobbies/ > > > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Seth wrote: > > > > > and hexadecimal, logic, flash games... other neatstuff! i am only the > > > most basic beginner at Go though. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Luke Bergen > > > To: lojban@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2010 9:50 pm > > > Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Funny Hat > > > > > > holy shite, there's another human being on earth whose hobbies include > go > > > and lojban? > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > > > > > >> On Friday 09 April 2010 20:31:27 Seth wrote: > > >> > i love the whole klingon badge thing. lojban could do something like > > >> that. > > >> > it would totally by like leveling up in an rpg, or gaining a higher > kyu > > >> > rank in Go. people could ask one another what rank they are to > determine > > >> > the appropriate level of complexity. it would be a cool motivator > too. > > >> > > >> That's one reason for the Lojban proficiency tests, which we've > started > > >> discussing. > > >> > > >> Pierre > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "lojban" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > > > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > >> > > >> > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "lojban" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "lojban" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something > other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00c09f8de4f04c91470483f1a452 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I enjoy Go, but am impossibly bad. =A0I mean that= literally: I was
> playing Go online regularily for several months, and was still 28
&= gt; kyu. =A0I was informed (in a friendly fashion) by the person teaching> me that that was impossible: everyone progresses to about 25 kyu
> over their first few games, but I had played dozens by that time.
&= gt; :)
=
Well that's unfortunate. =A0It's a fun game. =A0May= be we should play a teaching game some time.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Robin = Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
Go is not actually all that obscure outside the US, and certainly
not in the Lojban community. =A0You're really going to have to try
harder. =A0:)

I enjoy Go, but am impossibly bad. =A0I mean that literally: I was
playing Go online regularily for several months, and was still 28
kyu. =A0I was informed (in a friendly fashion) by the person teaching
me that that was impossible: everyone progresses to about 25 kyu
over their first few games, but I had played dozens by that time.
:)

-Robin

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 05:42:20PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> wow. =A0And here I was thinking that these two hobbies were so
> obscure that any one person having them both wasn't possible.
> I'll have to find a third hobby that only a few hundred people
> have ;) =A0Maybe one of these:
> http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/01/alt-text-ob= scure-hobbies/
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Seth <thirderivative@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > =A0and hexadecimal, logic, flash games... other neatstuff! i am o= nly the
> > most basic beginner at Go though.
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0-----Original Message-----
> > From: Luke Bergen <lu= keabergen@gmail.com>
> > To: lojban@googlegroup= s.com
> > Sent: Fri, Apr 9, 2010 9:50 pm
> > Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Funny Hat
> >
> > =A0holy shite, there's another human being on earth whose hob= bies include go
> > and lojban?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday 09 April 2010 20:31:27 Seth wrote:
> >> > i love the whole klingon badge thing. lojban could do so= mething like
> >> that.
> >> > it would totally by like leveling up in an rpg, or gaini= ng a higher kyu
> >> > rank in Go. people could ask one another what rank they = are to determine
> >> > the appropriate level of complexity. it would be a cool = motivator too.
> >>
> >> That's one reason for the Lojban proficiency tests, which= we've started
> >> discussing.
> >>
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >> --
> >> Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. > >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
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