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From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/feb37b27adb00a23 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 1 Apr 2010, at 21:09, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >>> Well, the linguistic community is not all at one on this point. >> >> =A0I stand corrected, the lojbanic =A0community outside John Cowan ;-) > > A number of people have said that they are interested in the project, not= just John. (John introduced me to Lojban, and is a colleague of many years= .) Whoa, whoa whoa! I never said I wasn't interested in the project, nor did I meant to imply that about others. I was talking specifically about one or two points (capitalization in particular, and to a lesser extent, the period at the beginning of sentences in front of an rather than the end of setnences) that seemed to be a very large sticking point for almost everyone, with people on both sides (you on one side, and virtually every lojbanist on the other) entrenched in their positions. You've listened to our positions, and you are going to make your decision one way or the other by ultimately whatever criteria you judge best. Those are the realities. I think everyone is pretty much on your side with regards to other punctuation issues, (at least for purposes of this project), which are basically treated neutrally withing lojban. Good luck to you, whatever you decide. --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.