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To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.124 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@yahoo.com X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/62f96e395a91e500 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/6631814e1d33d1bc Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd say, like fifty years of discussing these things (not constantly, of co= urse, unlike some other points). For the record, I point out that I am in = favor of using capitals on proper names (as Dodgson specifies in his text -= - he was careful about such things) and dropping periods just about everywh= ere, I also think some capitals at the beginning of real sentences (i.e., = not just bridi) would be good, but can't get a clear idea which would look = best (well, I is pretty much out), I like my ijeks as one word and think t= here must be a way around the one comma. ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael Everson To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:35:22 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] la .alis. On 1 Apr 2010, at 21:09, Michael Turniansky wrote: >> Well, the linguistic community is not all at one on this point. >=20 > I stand corrected, the lojbanic community outside John Cowan ;-) A number of people have said that they are interested in the project, not j= ust John. (John introduced me to Lojban, and is a colleague of many years.) >> I hope to be able to put my thoughts together about narrative and discus= s that in the coming days. >=20 > Really? What more can be said? I think we've pretty much discussed it t= o death, and all quarters have been heard from (I came in late to the discu= ssion because I was out for two days for Passover, and come to find several= hundred emails on the subject flooding my mailbox....) I have some specific things I'd like to discuss, and will present it when i= t's ready to be presented. Michael --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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