From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD5go3eBBoE5Y8Nvw@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 12 08:51:44 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O1LvH-0002Lr-EQ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:44 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf6756265qyk.1 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WxaWdyK2gTQUFlTc4J5qjVAeSzCeY8dG0n+crAMcOjY=; b=4CQZaRnY1qw6PFh3qidAk/38RP4aZEQhnRfeky7FNm5xL2RUDsAKUo/M58cjM9jWvP i9J6ImAPAfnlK/igKSWBVMrJxOyw6NYUQtTRkKUZ/9pB2ebvbcd70E3C0JtVuASuXXFG yb6haCaUUCKeVtua6b0KX00jTlMHpqejtKLZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wt94P2mqI89z3Hvaja3ad3KrNRAE6C8rmqtdQCR1h/Hii3RRobVf59YkSXcdqt7ffF DYVJ2G60XNAW9d9k7S2pxq4wPn2YPjD1DNpH1pYcZlkrT/uX8+qzvTbH8SRniDyIq+TF 2zOYTIS1vAiHHk079hPmNj0f+1i8395rc24O8= Received: by 10.229.43.208 with SMTP id x16mr121457qce.35.1271087481272; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.210.31 with SMTP id gi31ls392121qcb.0.p; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.227.83 with SMTP id iz19mr277666qcb.2.1271087479469; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.227.83 with SMTP id iz19mr277665qcb.2.1271087479438; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si660818qyk.7.2010.04.12.08.51.18; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.24 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.92.24; Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1774589qwi.11 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.39.197 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BBF505B.2050705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:51:17 -0400 Received: by 10.229.218.204 with SMTP id hr12mr178989qcb.101.1271087477530; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Cultural fu'ivla: summary and list of the ISO generated ones From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.24 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/f66e2fdee6af20a6 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/8f69e1ee2515a376 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Doty wro= te: > My point with starting everything with some form of "bang" means that you= r > brain will not be able to do anything at all to get any closer to what yo= u > were trying to say. =A0Plus, it won't help me if we're in a loud room and= I > don't quite here what you said. =A0If the first element was meaningful wi= th a > system, then it can help in both of those ways. > Speaking as a professional Scrabble=AE player, there are 4012 words legal in North American/Israeli/Malaysian English Scrabble that all start with UN-. (5259 in other countries). The vast majority mean "the opposite of (the rest of this word)". So the same argument can be brought to bear about English. Seems to me that languages *do* work that way, in broad strokes. --gejyspa, still trying valiantly to plough through the lojban email backlog. Still haven't gotten to the thread with Robin's essay link, yet. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.