From lojban+bncCOGW_6PwGBCWuY3eBBoE_VC57g@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 12 10:47:24 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f137.google.com ([209.85.211.137]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O1NjC-0004PK-II; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:47:24 -0700 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf2013065ywh.28 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:47:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=23uzRIiIurgDJPqxuKij7584P7zLR7lR1/UmojNpdyw=; b=6U0PQdAtvQATRkYdiK/IGJNTedu92q4AMoyG0kf7Df9HyKxi1WiWZqEOClYxaL6/Z6 DnL6SbUWqNPFjmHReFGm9i7zuUkz5mCGqwC0TwkRCo7FJKLjV43yjNFILg4v03tCVcpP 7ii8BBoz8ggvZxQ7hOp+tUHCR2iLVZWMzLn0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=42hSFRzi0xPkwq5Eewt4r3x0BE1A5s0on9+ZPY3L4kv+HlUfGT+G3EarcLKedREwVa PmEkTlBsrmq1lHth7sQaKiyA9u48DS9lRknG4LHWOCFRAOpRb/dXsHgZ4/esoyLfqGR1 5Hw1sHImMA+2SaEQpSJEyUnoXr/vRKmNr0j1w= Received: by 10.91.90.12 with SMTP id s12mr696676agl.7.1271094422072; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:47:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.86.125.19 with SMTP id x19ls384885fgc.1.p; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.87.38.12 with SMTP id q12mr230946fgj.8.1271094419706; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.136.79 with SMTP id q15mr281465bkt.33.1271068303031; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.136.79 with SMTP id q15mr281463bkt.33.1271068302789; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 17si374779bwz.3.2010.04.12.03.31.42; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.149.48.1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ti@fa-kuan.muc.de) client-ip=193.149.48.1; Received: (qmail 85663 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2010 10:31:41 -0000 Received: from pd9e1d9f6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO ?192.168.178.21?) (tueting@217.225.217.246) by mail.muc.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 10:31:41 -0000 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alfred_W._T=FCting=22?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <4BC27C9E.2040306@lojban.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [lojban] Active-stative? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:31:41 +0200 References: <4BC27C9E.2040306@lojban.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 193.149.48.1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of ti@fa-kuan.muc.de) smtp.mail=ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Original-Sender: ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/cdf18777732f3c27 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/4a1c3c34cb3f4faf Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Am 12.04.2010 um 03:51 schrieb Robert LeChevalier: > Nothing is stopping anyone from coining a fu'ivla corresponding to a > Basque word, and giving it only an x2, or making unusual with the > semantics of multiple sumti. When ages ago, I was proposing the use > of Lojban as an auxiliary metalanguage for expressing linguistic > examples in a neutral way, those were the sorts of things I > indicated were possible. Lojban's bells and whistles allow the > mimicking of almost anything in a form which communicates more > information, more unambiguously, than the typical linguistic example > expressed in English translation (like the Basque example in this > thread). E.g. the Nootka verb/sentence: "inikwihl'minik'isit" which can be translated into English as "Several small fires were burning in the house". Following the English syntax this Nootka sentence could be translated into Lojban ("so'i cmalu fagri puca'o jelca ne'i le zdani") or rendered similarly to the Nootka way ("zdane'ikemcmafagyso'ikemprununjelca") or even exactly according to the Nootka syntax as "fagykemyzdanerso'icmapru". (I apologize if there are mistakes, due to my Lojban gotten rusty with many years :( ) This wonderful Lojban flexibility is based on its rafsi system. co'o mi'e .aulun. _______________ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.