From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC9zo3eBBoE9kBs7w@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 12 11:32:50 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O1ORB-00089I-FS; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:50 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf6957938qyk.1 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AqNkTQJoGsFkm05ULvmUNlm1uqCiZKNGpWnhPXJGW+c=; b=Yd1s0JoeY+cANX7bLxgH+PKkdgSE4iQtzdP456IjSwSJn83zdgOAWkziR++f4s+Ga9 XSLw47h2VxIKDivwga1GQr4V5waWhqwaxw/P85wxHAFXJa/MeayVFkB6pAkzL6I91cHc MdXb1Xxwu/YMLLhyzbEpqXMc+OQrGEa5OIy9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=4aa6cnbkkBcVbJbSeTbj0PsIZxJvwzRg77Yf3wOhIUiqyDOhc0+XASbJgaqvJ/ftSm 4vajQPWG3za8WX+A4b72OzmQNY3i/EwwwsU/mTjU+vbS/vouIiZ8T4VoIkVkAoPSG3be ti2/uGjMNxEs5sZGmn3L/qWmj29O4WZMBBan0= Received: by 10.229.106.3 with SMTP id v3mr137861qco.31.1271097149747; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.10.160 with SMTP id p32ls1070459qcp.2.p; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.248.84 with SMTP id mf20mr296034qcb.22.1271097147386; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.248.84 with SMTP id mf20mr296031qcb.22.1271097146817; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si683025qyk.15.2010.04.12.11.32.25; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.27 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.92.27; Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so2689520qwb.65 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.212 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100412182123.GR20647@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100405210225.GW6084@digitalkingdom.org> <20100409002127.GA11541@digitalkingdom.org> <201004092108.00980.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4BBFDF2F.6050509@gmail.com> <20100410035904.GS11541@digitalkingdom.org> <20100412182123.GR20647@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:32:24 -0300 Received: by 10.229.239.148 with SMTP id kw20mr6491704qcb.10.1271097144456; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The efficacy of Lojban's grammar. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/c67f210addc06a0c X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/464cbaf61caf6f8d Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I was asserting that people actually *do* use the formal grammar > internally, and you're asserting you don't. > > I'm OK with being an exception on this, though, as long as what > people say still parses. =A0:) I'm with you on this, but I do suspect we are in a minority. Of course I don't have the full official formal grammar internalized (well, we don't even have a full official formal grammar yet, but you know what I mean) with all the silly bells and whistles, but I'm pretty sure that I parse the important core parts as intended in the formal grammar, at least that's how it feels like to me. Hopefully one day we will remove the most egregious silly parts from the official formal grammar, but probably not very soon. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.