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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/cdf18777732f3c27 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/9d1d409978309f7d Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6daa82b5363b904840fd3a7 --0016e6daa82b5363b904840fd3a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, And Rosta wrote: > Robert LeChevalier, On 12/04/2010 03:40: > > In such a sentence x1 is zo'e. zi'o never fills a place unless explicit. >> It was a late and somewhat reluctantly added cmavo. >> > > If usage decides anything, I bet that nothing is more established by usage > than that empty places may be understood as if filled by zi'o... > Nope. zo'e. > > --And. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com= > wrote:
Robert LeChevalier, On 12/04/2010 03:40:

In such a sentence x1 is zo'e. =A0zi'o never fills a place unless e= xplicit. =A0It was a late and somewhat reluctantly added cmavo.

If usage decides anything, I bet that nothing is more established by usage = than that empty places may be understood as if filled by zi'o...

Nope. zo'e.

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