From 3qi7ESwgSBugbVZYgOVVNSQSdKVUSXQNYW.YbQVYTLKXQYYQVOQbYeZc.MYW@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Apr 13 01:43:45 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f139.google.com ([209.85.222.139]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3qi7ESwgSBugbVZYgOVVNSQSdKVUSXQNYW.YbQVYTLKXQYYQVOQbYeZc.MYW@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O1bie-00018F-Ly; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:45 -0700 Received: by pzk3 with SMTP id 3sf551123pzk.28 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8NkzImifr4MH0A2hfAay6V0awXNZ+qcUOHwkm6CNTSI=; b=JOdBvjKY6ZXVz1IPXp8zY0BMuTqF7ye90VaOlVBTTxG61fhvjAeNgBguHBD/IKlRk1 kwxsOEhA3C4+i4WG054yKau7SMLnNZRKCuVBmi4fdMjFOfgb/BXGUQOVVL+ao2Hrw1jX KCtDDe8jZ0a5QgWdyY6Rszr2c5zXE3Bil2GOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=rBisfeXWSY7bohfP/K4uh4xw5S9aAMu9pMu9M3C4m0BEpzSap8KJIPlK7m95fEyTXY NkQm2PVb2Hit6b1bGeiKY+OoatJXdP5kZg62ykiMKvJxyy4/k072GMXO3fnsvg44Kifz /T3J7+nDrbv0Ly690INwRpvBw/zqRGS0hfO2M= Received: by 10.142.249.6 with SMTP id w6mr290737wfh.12.1271148202956; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.23 with SMTP id 23ls141328wfb.3.p; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr903382wfh.15.1271148200901; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.8.2 with SMTP id 2mr903381wfh.15.1271148200874; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si1085302pzk.6.2010.04.13.01.43.20; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) client-ip=69.17.117.7; Received: (qmail 15509 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2010 08:43:20 -0000 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Apr 2010 08:43:20 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O1biI-00017R-47 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:43:18 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Yet Another Tangent: my first cmavo definition Message-ID: <20100413084317.GY20647@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20100413070917.GX20647@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.17.117.7 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/db7f825f58124ec4 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/ae64cba387e306c Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not a clue, but it doesn't matter because you'll need to create a tracker to use it (and I think Trackers are disabled). Come on IRC; several people there have admin, and can give it to you (point them at this post if they balk) if they know how; if not, I'm aronud most of the time. -Robin On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:30:32PM +0800, Oren wrote: > I think it would be even more inviting (and more portable) if we > made an info-box sort of thing, like this: > http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Pretty+Tracker?bl=3Dy >=20 > Saves a lot of cutting and pasting. Is this plugin installed? >=20 > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 15:09, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 11:43:07PM +0800, Oren wrote: > >> I guess the real question is, after 13 years, how do we make this > >> happen. Robin's essay includes some new nomenclature, but no > >> fundamental refutation of the current policy; he and others appear > >> to be saying that by reaffirming the BPFK's authoritative role in > >> proscribing proper lojban, things will fall into place. > >> > >> It was supposed to take six months back when you still introduced > >> the WWW by its full name (read the original announcement). Now we > >> have a wiki and several hundred subscribers to the English mailing > >> list. Let's get the cmavo definitions done. Here, I just tried > >> one, someone check it for me. > >> > >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+Attitudinal+Modifiers#Propose= d_Definition_of_be_u > > > > I very much appreciate you doing this. =A0:) =A0I just wrote, and > > posted, http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Community+Work to basically > > ask for more of the same. > > > > I'm afraid my template doesn't match what you did very well, and I > > specifically asked people not to do the parenthetical > > chatting-on-the-wiki-page thing, but I still think it's great you > > went ahead and did it; gives me some hope that maybe *this* time the > > larger community will actually help. =A0:) > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > They say: =A0"The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." > > And I'm =A0thinking: =A0"Does it even occur to you to try for something > > other =A0than =A0the default =A0outcome?" =A0See http://shrunklink.com/= cdiz > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@google= groups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lo= jban?hl=3Den. > > > > >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something other than the default outcome?" See http://shrunklink.com/cdiz http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.