From 317fESwsJBp8KTJD9ADQFDMFL9HK.BNLKNIA9MFNNFKDFQNTOR.BNL@groups.bounces.google.com Tue Apr 13 11:29:02 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f143.google.com ([209.85.222.143]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <317fESwsJBp8KTJD9ADQFDMFL9HK.BNLKNIA9MFNNFKDFQNTOR.BNL@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1O1kr3-0003lG-QQ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:29:02 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf1282513pzk.26 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=mJTiu3wh5ATgU3PWGrKqgTq+Gbp7qQgQmZBqM5JDWdM=; b=WgG/jYaCrdxGhtRaFXuR7N8AvXDgEHH1L/tIGcJcBKf8B6USvOYN7bspClXuXb1t7S RbsR22eAWk/syAiUBG9hZJFPIHEnyuSkzjl4c9Lyl2YFIfS1orgcXvWYceFaneVJS9B+ JNO+1tfn1YcIHMU7PJYF6ZNAmDk7UjSn13n8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=MURSLvF10eXQWLIUMg9o9CAGrmo07l+hqP4PE4k41KUXPAHNU2LnZoUgxMtVQNmuqW /SppoYOwBrPHEUKiUSzUjGVW1r5TxRgAzTrfkmd/xS5yEEkn1IXyt3W2ZzR9tjmOpxug 73bX0+95f6q9bZU73hOrnnnvwdDAckhf9svJQ= Received: by 10.142.248.16 with SMTP id v16mr346120wfh.39.1271183319995; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.23 with SMTP id 23ls49688wfb.3.p; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.249.27 with SMTP id w27mr1049092wfh.28.1271183317803; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.249.27 with SMTP id w27mr1049086wfh.28.1271183316580; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f42.google.com (mail-vw0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si1165831pzk.12.2010.04.13.11.28.35; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.42; Received: by mail-vw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 7so521714vws.15 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.167.140 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <4BC1D15A.5030409@lojban.org> <4BC36464.8010707@gmail.com> <4BC3B98F.5070805@gmail.com> <808704.84236.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:28:35 -0400 Received: by 10.220.121.136 with SMTP id h8mr3240939vcr.193.1271183315124; Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {le} in xorlo From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/33d26e8385fed297 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/559d8b12dc916152 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68eeeddf1449e0484226d29 --0016e68eeeddf1449e0484226d29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > a logical impossibility. Because the {citka lo pipno} means that "eats the piano in its entirety"? What if three cows are standing around, one of them eats a piano, and then a second cow eats the first cow (including the piano). In this case it would be true that {re lo ci bakni cu citka lo pipno}. Am I right? 2010/4/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > > > What does it mean if I say {ci lo re bakni cu citka lo pipno}? > > That three of two cows eat pianos, a logical impossibility. > > > And would > > the meaning change if I used {le pipno} instead of {lo pipno} > > Using "le pipno" means you have some specific thing or things that you > are describing as pianos in mind. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e68eeeddf1449e0484226d29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > a logical impossibility.

Because the {citka lo pipn= o} means that "eats the piano in its entirety"? =A0What if three = cows are standing around, one of them eats a piano, and then a second cow e= ats the first cow (including the piano). =A0In this case it would be true t= hat {re lo ci bakni cu citka lo pipno}. =A0Am I right?

2010/4/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What does it mean if I say {ci lo re bakni cu citka lo pipno}?

That three of two cows eat pianos, a logical impossibility.

> And would
> the meaning change if I used {le pipno} instead of {lo pipno}

Using "le pipno" means you have some specific thing or thin= gs that you
are describing as pianos in mind.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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