From 3Qli1SwQNBpsKCH5KCH5.JKOPN.IPGJE65IBJJBG9BMJPKN.7JH@groups.bounces.google.com Thu Apr 01 19:37:17 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f167.google.com ([209.85.221.167]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3Qli1SwQNBpsKCH5KCH5.JKOPN.IPGJE65IBJJBG9BMJPKN.7JH@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1NxWky-00017q-Nv for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:37:16 -0700 Received: by qyk39 with SMTP id 39sf2953866qyk.23 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=LrZOO8dHvdKWDvYp0wrnBWYb58ENTsN1rxIHyDVagt8=; b=3lqr5Fy1gdLmOSqkPP+dfhikdGsp6V09L3MI9qsPsZMPOgUoDDMRC6gC31nZ2Qr7aK HwhMArA9ONY7ukqvkEtW3SE+Gw1qLyApTN3JSk5GdHuu5b9W1gkOdOPVzREnluUC5YBM Pm/lv9d+1Wl0JvnxKGGfM8LFQ94Z1NfvqNz4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; b=022SzBlYhAr7AUwAFVuNeyZkHBMrZoNeefwFGh99kKMAxwDIHGVJDLwEtJw485zqzi 1WCRMn8i0bvQGnuDJHNT8XsKeNartN3hS83FhLLdztV5U7pj4faiEt4GfN9f2M5EyMZ3 W7hq9ZndrIgcK5Ty4qRsrnzYE6+KngQa9wTEY= Received: by 10.224.97.169 with SMTP id l41mr45498qan.5.1270175810653; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:36:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.32.10 with SMTP id a10ls110375qad.2.p; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.90.70 with SMTP id h6mr115281qam.28.1270175809080; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.90.70 with SMTP id h6mr115280qam.28.1270175809056; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si894329qyk.6.2010.04.01.19.36.48; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=hj1FozfAy03f2h6OmyVtKRmRTx0FcRdqEzJSNo8ldKo= c=1 sm=0 a=VFxCzlUvzhgA:10 a=ORa4HqFjfvEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=0NX0Zrr_9mq-Q_gdcr0A:9 a=s0U9OgzG8b5z6B2FFIKf-pqykogA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=ITGCJgwGTuG7H/gKGaarIQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 71.71.198.100 Received: from [71.71.198.100] ([71.71.198.100:45259] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 00/67-28114-04855BB4; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:36:48 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9622D663 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Summary: Cultural fu'ivla Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:36:40 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201004012236.43061.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/6edf3f52e6f491ba X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/f4298206cc01deb0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 01 April 2010 17:20:39 komfo,amonan wrote: > kernoue I say "kernauke", and I had to stare at "kernoue" for a few seconds because "ou" is rare in Lojban. It's "ker,no,ue", not "ker,nou,e", which is what I was trying at first to read it as. On Thursday 01 April 2010 18:07:37 komfo,amonan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Christopher Doty wrote: > > Do we keep the "ki-" prefixes, along with their variants, for all of the > > Bantu languages? If so, then why not keep the "lingua" with "lingua > > latina"? > > I would dispense with those as derivative, but again, that's not the point > I'm making. I'd dispense with them unless it's easier to make a type-4 with them. For instance, from "isiXhosa" I made "sitlosa" (there is nothing resembling a click in Lojban, so I picked something vaguely similar to the sound). But for "Nyankore" I'd say "niankore". Similarly, Uw Olkola (an Australian language closely related to Uw Oykangand) I call "olkola", and Guugu Yimidhirr could be "iimdiri" (or "bangrjimidiri" for type-3). Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.