From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRDAmp_eBBoE7EqnaQ@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 15 19:37:11 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O2bQZ-0007iO-0u; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:37:11 -0700 Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20sf1086237gwb.16 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:date :in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent:x-http-via:x-http-useragent :received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rkb4eoSd1TSyLTxGkEHR2ivBzHuYLVSZr2pHzdLQZME=; b=ivlhyF/VjZD36n0P9T3Xwya0Qp+vWhMKa63AG4wPpX8KQgk3XS98IeMnWV+abNPN16 4rGA5zI0/z/04vqvWDpcNjmep2b/bRXXIuZIAVE+eIJB2kyuxmnZ091ZYTL2pb5g7AEg CfDNX2klGK40jmIjcD2tMxJ9nqTCQbQRlOPGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-via:x-http-useragent:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=v6fwgAIr5/jvEnGy2LtDMOQSgNR9LcpmWiS68zCshcu7vwyXzV+hykJMhVDlbTUah7 xuiGujtjVVgLeCtx+4mZrODEd01aodNE+IYI4TxBkimEgcJLsZYGjhzskpTnKQRznEgA 0Q4pegdVRzYWxutxN2cwmlyorYqaR8w/MwGE0= Received: by 10.100.81.4 with SMTP id e4mr63734anb.27.1271385408636; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.182.21 with SMTP id j21ls340845anp.1.p; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.8.40 with SMTP id l40mr719258ani.9.1271385408099; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.8.40 with SMTP id l40mr719257ani.9.1271385408068; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f62.google.com (mail-gw0-f62.google.com [74.125.83.62]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k1si1349284ani.5.2010.04.15.19.36.48; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.62 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lindarthebard@yahoo.com) client-ip=74.125.83.62; Received: by mail-gw0-f62.google.com with SMTP id a18so1589091gwa.7 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC74B22.2040308@lojban.org> X-IP: 166.216.226.83 References: <20100407053428.GA9239@digitalkingdom.org> <0b44ea18-b1a9-42c4-9e2e-ad2b5d19af23@z6g2000yqz.googlegroups.com> <4BC74B22.2040308@lojban.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 bthnggts106-imbl.nsdeng.att.net X-HTTP-UserAgent: SAMSUNG-SGH-A877/A877UCID3 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.5 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.1 configuration/CLDC-1.1,gzip(gfe) Received: by 10.101.134.39 with SMTP id l39mr62864ann.51.1271385407479; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <164122aa-9e20-4646-addd-06783934df42@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Request For Help; non-urgent research request to help Lojban. 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Content preview: Bob, I wholly agree, and I find usage in that sense quite annoying. My idea is not so mch to spam down a list of words to stick behind "lo" as it is to create a referential guide to conversation, which in turn would (I hope) facilitate more conversation in lojban po'o. It has been thorought burned into my mind that lujvo should be developed with the intent to use it as a main selbri, and I thank my seniors in the community for drilling that good habit into my thick skull. If somebody would be so kind as to start sections on the wiki for this, I'd be glad to start copying over terminology from jvs and generating a request list of missing words. This also gives newnewnewnewbies something constructive to do as they will probably have the most "how do I say...?" questions, which means we get more material for the list. [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 X_IP Message has X-IP header 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (lindarthebard[at]yahoo.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.6 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.6 URG_BIZ BODY: Contains urgent matter -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Bob, I wholly agree, and I find usage in that sense quite annoying. My idea is not so mch to spam down a list of words to stick behind "lo" as it is to create a referential guide to conversation, which in turn would (I hope) facilitate more conversation in lojban po'o. It has been thorought burned into my mind that lujvo should be developed with the intent to use it as a main selbri, and I thank my seniors in the community for drilling that good habit into my thick skull. If somebody would be so kind as to start sections on the wiki for this, I'd be glad to start copying over terminology from jvs and generating a request list of missing words. This also gives newnewnewnewbies something constructive to do as they will probably have the most "how do I say...?" questions, which means we get more material for the list. short version/* What Bob and others said. */short version -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.