From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCUl7PeBBoEFJp9Gw@googlegroups.com Mon Apr 19 14:31:27 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O3yYs-0004gN-6d; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:31:26 -0700 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20sf1223917vws.16 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lTcvFK+/AWGubbbILtrW/zApRBeaNjSotCQ+nuy8Hsc=; b=LvvCWsoDuhDGqoC0Ldq/hfw2gotAZYVBGSgsc9jLBZP9ImXVRWGyftb8O69OmjZn2D xLY9iQGpOrW2eDlaLyuOUB9b9na++PX/jA1tLme4MZOjYg0z7TnEljKRoKvN6Mk7QZDM md93LOd/a0NXdWRD+6kBYxhwBgPlFIKpj+L7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CVrfEe2q/PWaQqfaMbXjPSlkZpK8kApJk8VWrqc5LmA1SEm3cjZYOVlHDTr8wbV78b mvzyNcOu+0Scncrr+sIrGqgaWHkL9Cl+uEE/qJWHPOwkwAc324gESD8v+/s9XcbDARdc 73Wz0Se4cRqlJdtx38Kj+qp/gyjxfI1i7mF5g= Received: by 10.220.122.78 with SMTP id k14mr396132vcr.40.1271712660073; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.70.17 with SMTP id b17ls11861653vcj.2.p; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.85 with SMTP id h21mr1294869vcy.12.1271712659159; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.85 with SMTP id h21mr1294868vcy.12.1271712659097; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f183.google.com (mail-qy0-f183.google.com [209.85.221.183]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si3396393vci.0.2010.04.19.14.30.58; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.183 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.183; Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so3385921qyk.18 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <491909.91967.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <618898.68218.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <381899.30620.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <851523.82178.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <991859.82338.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <491909.91967.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:30:57 -0300 Received: by 10.229.181.16 with SMTP id bw16mr495019qcb.0.1271712657609; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {le} in xorlo From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.183 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:43 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: > > The interesting question is, how hard is it to reintroduce the singular q= uantifier into plural quantification. =A0Not oo0, I suppose, but likely to = be messy in the metatheory. I think you first define what it means to be one (using plural "ro" and plural variables): da pamei .ijo ro de poi me da du da "X is one iff any Ys among X are X" then you can use the plural "ro" and restrict it to things that are one: "ro da poi pamei ..." mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.