From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCvisHeBBoEj9afLg@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 22 05:47:06 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O4vo6-0004Vu-75; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:47:06 -0700 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20sf2493675vws.16 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hutSeNM5IKzvjucby+dTeGcsSBpHYExS1II98B2vc6U=; b=zb1pfzxKbk7wRxwKkCi1c2qb4vDKIjyGkUSqbFLNiEajmzInWHh4SGJW5SS2KPdeuj LdNAzSJkXhG40AZ3olPSldmOPmmifCIq77NmuTkR4Szn1tjTKWDlFCC9ZVCxTWxVANnb gXWCPRjwr5sfQDs71jrlZ2+HGwy3pmui530TU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q6J4E1VdR4d7v+hduEuDRtleq/HEr2a4EyM4tsZfIYD8Z8+mJwt3+1ocP3fY2AeflI g3iMB/SNYuR8IjzN+WqjFgDhfTAW0JzzG1qWAhwt9qdgQdePYovlACupAvkhWzr9BVY3 8dA+VMzfsiEg01ym7JebKTaoF8yD39HVr8F0A= Received: by 10.220.107.202 with SMTP id c10mr627446vcp.23.1271940399568; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.68.217 with SMTP id w25ls23918282vci.1.p; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.85 with SMTP id h21mr2171111vcy.12.1271940398480; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.85 with SMTP id h21mr2171109vcy.12.1271940398400; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.221.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si5464412vci.4.2010.04.22.05.46.37; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.172; Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so10850537qyk.0 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <831879.67797.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6a2c862a-91f0-452e-9a31-0064620d5d06@g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <934390.40893.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <391970.26672.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <225049.90411.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <734238.40743.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <831879.67797.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:46:36 -0300 Received: by 10.229.191.15 with SMTP id dk15mr3204168qcb.20.1271940397099; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] About plural 'ro' From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:34 PM, John E Clifford wr= ote: > Thank you for the reductio ad absurdum. =A0What gives the right result in= this system is so remote from the question at hand as to demonstrate the t= otal inadequacy of the system. So: ro da poi bevri lo co'e cu ba se cnemu "Anyone who carries the thing will be rewarded." would be close to the question at hand, except it gives the wrong result, w= hile: ro da poi me lo bevri be lo co'e cu ba se cnemu "Anyone who is among the carriers of the thing will be rewarded." is remote from the question at hand, even though it gives the right result? Just adding three little words makes the system totally inadequate? OK. What's an adequate system then? mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.