From 3iPG1SwoJBnsrtnlhbgqhrflZhk.bnlkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com Fri Apr 02 06:31:17 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f160.google.com ([209.85.211.160]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3iPG1SwoJBnsrtnlhbgqhrflZhk.bnlkniaZmfnnfkdfqntor.bnl@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nxgxp-0002df-JI for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:31:14 -0700 Received: by ywh32 with SMTP id 32sf2308472ywh.28 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:received:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=aVhF+1tMVrhc9F4h8dTnyOYDISsAwV1XX/qZv9yXDLI=; b=l/Lrx4QOA1wZhyznzTb3/ofe12yNTxx1hLhCGNM+ARfZ/1/YyZVqIJC/Ml+FZaI4BD M4SDXqEXdm3NkR4EuSRhBhrzkaAm4VWEA9RsN6Vs9nAz6TfLRKN0yegTQqd0k+nfy2c8 NmyRYXO1XXgY+3cyFL7xJ3orSWMBkZJtn8cac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=S2aDZ4NjS+Kv5SEUD2hlNpNtqFntxhTbTbwsYh3fpLZCMIQwwZQZqNvdBvmIA5i2V+ 3t+jXwqcBTXElqjUoIc1HvHl6iDDIgpq6MJlwCMHf8Jf9SYC37u7Yo3UuvNCEoIlNvfu K1Yig8l5VdzIgppmL+lmyaM1WEqfilbemzS/Q= Received: by 10.150.173.16 with SMTP id v16mr123211ybe.12.1270215048626; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.160.26 with SMTP id m26ls437376ago.4.p; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.2.6 with SMTP id 6mr4225470agb.12.1270215047474; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.2.6 with SMTP id 6mr4225463agb.12.1270215047074; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f41.google.com (mail-gw0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 24si289812ywh.6.2010.04.02.06.30.46; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.41; Received: by mail-gw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 15so1776117gwb.0 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.20 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201004012357.49645.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Christopher Doty Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 06:30:19 -0700 Received: by 10.101.29.22 with SMTP id g22mr5336704anj.56.1270215039274; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] So what do we say for Swedish? (was "Summary: Cultural fu'ivla") To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of suomichris@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=suomichris@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: suomichris@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b7cc2efa3fc3ba64 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/f14119313b524d5 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b14a34a4f3048340fc0b --001636b2b14a34a4f3048340fc0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right. So we're back to autonyms have problems, and the codes not really working on their own. I **really** think the ISO codes should at least be incorporated into the fu'ivla in some way--what about chucking out the language family stuff, and expanding the ISO codes to fu'ivla, based as much as possible on the autonym? On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 00:24, Oren wrote: > right. i guess the code doesn't belong in a sumti place. > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:57, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Thursday 01 April 2010 21:35:38 Oren wrote: > >> > Lojban day-to-day: What do we say for Sweden and Swedish? > >> > >> sweden: { gugde la .sy .ebu } > >> swedish: { bangu la .sy .vy } > > > > Doesn't parse (try "gugde la me sy.ebu"). And are the people of Cyprus > > speakers of Welsh? > > > > Pierre > > -- > > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001636b2b14a34a4f3048340fc0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right. =A0So we're back to autonyms have problems, and the codes not re= ally working on their own.

I **really** think the ISO co= des should at least be incorporated into the fu'ivla in some way--what = about chucking out the language family stuff, and expanding the ISO codes t= o fu'ivla, based as much as possible on the autonym?

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 00:24, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
right. i guess the code doesn't belong in a sumti place.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:57, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Thursday 01 April 2010 21:35:38 Oren wrote:
>> > Lojban day-to-day: What do we say for Sweden and Swedish?
>>
>> sweden: { gugde la .sy .ebu }
>> swedish: { bangu la .sy .vy }
>
> Doesn't parse (try "gugde la me sy.ebu"). And are the pe= ople of Cyprus
> speakers of Welsh?
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci
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