From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDv2MPeBBoE-1wDuA@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 22 17:40:57 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O56wh-0001cQ-4a; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:56 -0700 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20sf2799066vws.16 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f2gIKIBl36khVFbdTjvIp09SFHIPJ7ZU8UhrWBxeXjc=; b=B5UR270nLayHVwsDRRBZzOUv2tt2VpRDCTZuUctuCLVKtMAkAYd8c9TXY10MXsp6F1 63S3+BkcmCsKcIcP+Dn7xcY38dx5GtdPXTq+L9dJOhguLAweTaYKAjuFAl/L4B4zz89i jciUDMZJLiGPTJ02Cp33PDjj8jadvaQgOPw9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=s3/DFk6k2Pv3dw3aXMvpVLBmeXqSS5H+SGuAqDtKBxzR2WtV22n10+jassSKv9cz5A NSbYCzhNls2z6gvXWdHj4yyH6NcnbqOe1e+ur/8YjNpD+qKJCJq1tNR+mYK86ycEsqRa 3nlIFq3vjBnHd9AqtkbNGWgJ1A1APiUQLt3FM= Received: by 10.220.126.222 with SMTP id d30mr854239vcs.19.1271983215204; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.47.17 with SMTP id l17ls26782477vcf.5.p; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.159.70 with SMTP id i6mr2404370vcx.15.1271983214249; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.159.70 with SMTP id i6mr2404369vcx.15.1271983214180; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f201.google.com (mail-qy0-f201.google.com [209.85.221.201]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b14si370066vcx.1.2010.04.22.17.40.13; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.201 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.201; Received: by mail-qy0-f201.google.com with SMTP id 39so4278627qyk.22 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <561527.86938.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <4BBF197D.6080601@lojban.org> <20100409222518.GN11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BC02ABC.8000300@lojban.org> <4BC1D15A.5030409@lojban.org> <4BC36464.8010707@gmail.com> <6d4d93ea-e660-4ad1-8910-02ddbb96f48c@b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <561527.86938.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:40:09 -0300 Received: by 10.229.228.83 with SMTP id jd19mr7585111qcb.72.1271983210643; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo (was: Re: Response to Robin's "Essay on the future of Lojban" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:01 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > > {Sorry, but doesn't 'noi' exactly amount to "what I am calling" with no guarantees?] No, "noi" is non-restrictive veridical. Maybe you are thinking of "voi". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.