From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRCq3cPeBBoEStMocg@googlegroups.com Thu Apr 22 17:50:22 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f202.google.com ([209.85.217.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O575u-00021U-3Z; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:50:19 -0700 Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26sf7801885gxk.10 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:date :in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:received :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E9DjC4WAiZruguLWAQrcg7B4el/FrEKMky133L5eAZI=; b=bgNCJALZtUgGIMnaNTrLAWv7Alp+kWBHKEwBSsyvpT7P7bYUVfTewzv9P87JNz7rHK MGlemSrLoEIghnrXeGcXoFXzEofQtQlXNe47KgzUqhsYJY9p9iiBoMDhbmwasH3XuvUd XFj3dLPWaVFO2bJ5LGzp5SyCNBzAeXpJJsCPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=c8aCkSFVJUmCn1tAYKTVC6GV9gH/3qCd/dg9yLlAu8TDzB63tbbMmxOIeqsSOJs96s rSrM7rt/kzxOQ42PcVQ6lB+YR43VwDwX4FsZKqSxSw9mQRdL/Wv1A2Xqn5kTOZnfl6P2 PBHYNR5rWufLfBuswFZRLkxVAEAVFtgVIA4T0= Received: by 10.150.248.1 with SMTP id v1mr1384989ybh.16.1271983786290; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.146.27 with SMTP id y27ls25282596ann.2.p; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.8.40 with SMTP id l40mr7862527ani.9.1271983785797; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.8.40 with SMTP id l40mr7862526ani.9.1271983785751; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f192.google.com (mail-gy0-f192.google.com [209.85.160.192]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si62492ywh.0.2010.04.22.17.49.45; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.192 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.192; Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so10871244gyg.29 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 83.227.66.222 References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <20100409014708.GB11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBF197D.6080601@lojban.org> <20100409222518.GN11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BC02ABC.8000300@lojban.org> <4BC1D15A.5030409@lojban.org> <4BC36464.8010707@gmail.com> <6d4d93ea-e660-4ad1-8910-02ddbb96f48c@b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_2; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.342.9 Safari/533.2,gzip(gfe) Received: by 10.150.250.5 with SMTP id x5mr1393527ybh.13.1271983785689; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7913e18e-b0f2-4b18-bb4d-ecf39ef60f38@v14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo (was: Re: Response to Robin's "Essay on the future of Lojban" From: Daniel Brockman To: lojban X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.192 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 23, 1:08=A0am, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Daniel Brockman wr= ote: > > On Apr 12, 8:20=A0pm, And Rosta wrote: > > >> I'm also wondering whether there exists an experimental > >> specific KOhA, a nonanaphoric "it/them". (I think I used to > >> use "le du" in lieu of such.) > > > I've been using {le co'e} for this for quite a while, and I too > > wish I had a KOhA for it. =A0It feels like a language hole. > > That reminds me, someone once proposed making "LE KU" grammatical. Oh, right! I forgot about that. I remember now that we talked about it some months ago. > That's perfectly doable grammar-wise, and it immediately gives not > only "le ku" but also "lo ku" (=3D zo'e), "loi ku", "lei ku", "lo'e ku" > (=3Dzu'i?), "le'e ku", "lo'i ku", "le'i ku" in case anyone ever needs > them. I actually wanted to say that I think a {la}-like version of {zo'e} would be useful too (sort of a lightweight {ko'a}), but it felt like too much of a luxury to even bring up, what with all the other important issues being discussed. With the LE KU grammar, however, bringing it up feels more okay. So: can we get LA KU as well? -- Daniel Brockman daniel@brockman.se --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.