From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRDI3cbeBBoEbEoaYQ@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 23 07:30:02 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f137.google.com ([209.85.211.137]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O5Jt8-0008D6-Fx; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:30:01 -0700 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf2967613ywh.28 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IAACrX7XFR9IkypZ8JcKgeVs2VT7umchXvLs7EjpsPs=; b=o2/FFLX0dVc0w8tllDEPN4LK4ICJZaT/b+7g6QExPN/ad97Q3JvbSN3oLLtimpqk4+ kUpfjC8J5Nnqzuielx/ovWCCccXP8oVQljuyoFceSOtS/ADlrWW418BeK7Uoi665GS7i xJjmeHQbkSFgBjyieO+FZJaiM1NwTYc9DnWUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CpFhP9l5EUOt/O6JF074Xybag3MTdV5VlprAPwiiPKp/D6szszZksHYlkHjgcg3+kG osDbfZ0V9vVYd6noRB5s4iX47L9kdUrk1O/wNLID1bwZT1Pvrqk4JoNSySzE+hAd43e1 IwwJKTDS0QKNyuFxNOq8P8LJUKTrlMXVCEioE= Received: by 10.150.233.5 with SMTP id f5mr46020ybh.26.1272032968505; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.182.21 with SMTP id j21ls27827220anp.1.p; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.24.21 with SMTP id 21mr66403anx.27.1272032967587; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.24.21 with SMTP id 21mr66389anx.27.1272032966959; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id 19si132967ywh.4.2010.04.23.07.29.25; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.123 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.123; Received: (qmail 66823 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2010 14:29:25 -0000 Message-ID: <432205.66074.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qYzd1X0VM1lw.rleJZgmI_oAo7dL7OvlqgQeEguyySr0Xif giqUfrvzhjIx7VjMnPbgQ9DVcLOzi128VTBnmUarj_JKwF_XYuwgTawoyYs7 TJSS3.iwZoX4kVzi1OmJZgN.WT24WX4vFyT_uS99KpGh5ZtwoVgvKp96gUK5 VgByPdzqN3VhOfctAvaLMnuKey2lEdOGix2euBB6D0PfUlveVThrWUPsU.7j 8aZB.NmV.mOD4MMyM8IfF.kbv1zzSfv3Nq9.3LDmxsWtTNgbp4RTyNUyiub2 GKDn4HZ6d8_3ENLLBy3q6MBQMtfiDBbrPCS_8NNpIijzvy4t7g5a7Fa_YZfX Sv_76lDLPhZ5DMaM67KeX0kAbM6nz40dq9l1e Received: from [71.14.73.129] by web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/348.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.102.267879 References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <20100409014708.GB11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BBF197D.6080601@lojban.org> <20100409222518.GN11541@digitalkingdom.org> <4BC02ABC.8000300@lojban.org> <4BC1D15A.5030409@lojban.org> <4BC36464.8010707@gmail.com> <6d4d93ea-e660-4ad1-8910-02ddbb96f48c@b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo (was: Re: Response to Robin's "Essay on the future of Lojban" To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What in the world for? ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llamb=EDas To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 6:08:07 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {le} in xorlo (was: Re: Response to Robin's "Essa= y on the future of Lojban" On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Daniel Brockman wrot= e: > On Apr 12, 8:20 pm, And Rosta wrote: >> >> I'm also wondering whether there exists an experimental >> specific KOhA, a nonanaphoric "it/them". (I think I used to >> use "le du" in lieu of such.) > > I've been using {le co'e} for this for quite a while, and I too > wish I had a KOhA for it. It feels like a language hole. That reminds me, someone once proposed making "LE KU" grammatical. That's perfectly doable grammar-wise, and it immediately gives not only "le ku" but also "lo ku" (=3D zo'e), "loi ku", "lei ku", "lo'e ku" (=3Dzu'i?), "le'e ku", "lo'i ku", "le'i ku" in case anyone ever needs them. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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