From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCBycneBBoEnGg7Ig@googlegroups.com Fri Apr 23 20:25:16 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O5VzS-0006FJ-LS; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:25:15 -0700 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20sf3263825vws.16 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:25:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZB/mKVcZcwu1fPrAl72OtzuWiINS5KWzQvMkvD45l/8=; b=NseEZ2/oXGw5UvFpfVOv2njXxH4b4firLC31KwyKy5+XPGrJlMPiUMEMudNDwhx7dt hzJghcR1NRftUBTkOIZb6AKvhG5TQw+TGdicIbrVeXcB8IxRX58barCB/GIEk0uAVqvv NAjIFbnqnhM+a1PF5qae077/pjDErOrNAhkSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FOqCvwcSrRS06RCf78ENQCOaYQQj2V3/SqfrlFB9gEPXwXPpCFjAlvNx+jFXIBLOuL fCTdb2rEFLPqtQzoLuesYZhiV9giKwHAr+g+w/zBK/uvWzKhd6bFvOmO3cGU1visBstI WY/uvCdulHzgMx9TPpjwnqnAqaZSFMzVUvfIg= Received: by 10.220.88.99 with SMTP id z35mr73830vcl.4.1272079489046; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.66.74 with SMTP id m10ls30347344vci.4.p; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.164.205 with SMTP id f13mr223885vcy.2.1272079487472; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.164.205 with SMTP id f13mr223884vcy.2.1272079487451; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f197.google.com (mail-qy0-f197.google.com [209.85.221.197]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27si1221381vcr.2.2010.04.23.20.24.46; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.197 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.197; Received: by qyk35 with SMTP id 35so9731229qyk.11 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.232.137 with SMTP id ju9mr1118107qcb.54.1272079486163; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:24:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] bug in le cmalu noltru? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.197 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > ni'o fo le cukta cu cusku lu lo sincrboa cu tunlo lo se kalte be sy fau > =A0=A0 lo nu ky mulno gi'enai se marxa ibabo sy de'a kakne lo nu muvdu ke= i > =A0=A0 gi'e sipna ze'a lo masti be li xa be'o poi se kuspe lo befctiru'e = li'u > > Wouldn't the {lu li'o li'u} fill the x5 (non-existent) place of {cusku} > since it starts with {fo le cukta}? =A0If I say {fe mi le cukta cu dunda} > wouldn't the {le cukta} fill x3? I thought you were going to comment on the x2 of "tunlo". The rule I prefer is that FAs don't alter the placement of untagged sumti (just like BAI and other tags), but in this particular case it doesn't matter much if you interpret the lu li'u as just some uttereance related in an unspecified way to the saying rather than as the actual saying. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.