From 3fR-2SwoJBp4HHJJ8K9G8QEK8GJ.AMKJMH98LEMMEJCEPMSNQ.AMK@groups.bounces.google.com Fri Apr 02 09:47:23 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3fR-2SwoJBp4HHJJ8K9G8QEK8GJ.AMKJMH98LEMMEJCEPMSNQ.AMK@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nxk1a-0002EV-SB for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:47:22 -0700 Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5sf2436034vws.16 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:47:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=pR61rTO+OofkGNhrO4xZdTDHm8oYIQTG5zuo2A6IIfs=; b=Z9ElnF4jfJRVkOSnI/WpeEUfMyOLqYbW4gP9AUKreaTxoNMPSFruK49wdnV7CNZTVB G2Nw/3gFGZlhe9w/trUNUia2MBx4A8OyuRZ98pyKQioI4AbDBCr21+Y9BUGh2Kvt3Bow k+zXeNI2/oml1F7eRmpGUg7Dl4vUS6I7CGlR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=W09OuKWd4lEnLnw8ixgY3S6vo38SV5sROx7IhL7ngnbR+HzH468Sc6bwfvWCqz1yru 3we+yRqmvGwVNUlIVDFWtRFXHLxL6SKRAmVXtNBKQNWJci4XrV/MCpL12VCk5E2PZu+X P/C0NeGYZ6Y9D27955ZK9ycuz3vGlq0YXLjN8= Received: by 10.220.89.89 with SMTP id d25mr222606vcm.36.1270226813840; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.68.217 with SMTP id w25ls608343vci.1.p; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.195 with SMTP id j3mr514632vcy.25.1270226812646; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.165.195 with SMTP id j3mr514631vcy.25.1270226812631; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f185.google.com (mail-qy0-f185.google.com [209.85.221.185]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 21si22351118vws.1.2010.04.02.09.46.51; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.185 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.185; Received: by qyk15 with SMTP id 15so2364193qyk.10 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.67 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:46:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201004012357.49645.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:46:50 -0300 Received: by 10.229.222.76 with SMTP id if12mr4006156qcb.17.1270226810739; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] So what do we say for Swedish? (was "Summary: Cultural fu'ivla") From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.185 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/b7cc2efa3fc3ba64 X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/81593c27375203a9 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Christopher Doty wrote: > > I **really** think the ISO codes should at least be incorporated into the > fu'ivla in some way--what about chucking out the language family stuff, and > expanding the ISO codes to fu'ivla, based as much as possible on the > autonym? Some random thoughts here, I'm not suggesting this is necessarily a good idea: aaa -> bangu'a'a'a aab -> bangu'a'abu aba -> bangu'abu'a abb -> bangu'abubu baa -> bangubu'a'a bab -> bangubu'abu bba -> bangububu'a bbb -> bangubububu The remaining problem would be what to do with codes containing h, q, w, y, which cannot appear in fu'ivla. One option is to convert h->x, q->k, w->v, y->j and use a different vowel (instead of "u") for those, so: aah -> bangu'a'axe aqa -> bangu'ake'a aww -> bangu'aveve yaa -> banguje'a'a This scheme is univocal and reversible. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.