From lojban+bncCI2r46byARCn9s7eBBoENLng_g@googlegroups.com Sat Apr 24 20:47:14 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f166.google.com ([209.85.221.166]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O5soH-0006dR-7G; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:47:13 -0700 Received: by qyk38 with SMTP id 38sf26395323qyk.1 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:x-sasl-enc :received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:x-mailer:subject :mime-version:date:references:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ERhq43pCcWeOGH3jWtVn3pbswcxbFKZfwUdbkyVEnTk=; b=WJtWpHJ+xoGciP3Oc6zNxQGVMVLENiO4ZlfTluSrX7/CEr4Pv99rqSA3psomBR07Bg a57XPHnKYR0vbkj2dPBUeQblsXzG7js3gKA6un4uYtyH2BFWUUK+wU89zIsJtJaRXSnH kGZLhejdP07AsS4oTsHa0sSVZ+Ztk9OMbm09c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-sasl-enc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to :x-mailer:subject:mime-version:date:references :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=0Ih2OAaunIiYoEQlrays4qm5xe3XNFsezn4XWvZyT6qiJzeHip5lyxHPBvldm/pjrK 2OWbiqNE5JvwSnEfgIanIrtF+WOXxLmhh5u/gY7Z0fdMayHuYPzIqDTGt9g1loCwa/5a Gi1zVf11L3mrjhzjEs/auTqlc19DCpsYOpStQ= Received: by 10.224.10.27 with SMTP id n27mr188429qan.43.1272167207289; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:46:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.42.12 with SMTP id q12ls1842184qae.0.p; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.35.13 with SMTP id n13mr193001qad.9.1272167206667; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.73.21 with SMTP id o21mr457473vcj.21.1272157125811; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.73.21 with SMTP id o21mr457472vcj.21.1272157125786; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b14si1889936vcx.1.2010.04.24.17.58.44; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 66.111.4.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of steve@salkin.org) client-ip=66.111.4.25; Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E41EA9FB for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:58:44 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: ZfOEM1iKipsxHHdARpJSHxvBf+NL8pzKM/LDOMxboKk5 1272157122 Received: from [10.10.63.208] (unknown [166.137.13.44]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 539AA2C8DC; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Steve Salkin To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Subject: Re: [lojban] bug in le cmalu noltru? Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:58:36 -0400 References: X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 66.111.4.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of steve@salkin.org) smtp.mail=steve@salkin.org; dkim=pass header.i=@messagingengine.com X-Original-Sender: steve@salkin.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 24, 2010, at 16:44, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Luke Bergen =20 > wrote: >> >> {mi ki'u bilga lo nu cuxna lo drata jibri} >> >> I thought that BAI take a sumti so right off the bat it looks funny =20 >> that we >> have {ki'u broda} > > BAIs are tags, like PU, and like all tags they can be used as sumti > tcita or as selbri tcita. (Or as connectives.) > > "mi ki'u bilga" is like "mi pu bilga", except with "because > (whatever)" instead of "before (whatever)". > > "mi ki'u bilga lo nu cuxna lo drata jibri" is "I therefore (i.e. > because of contextual reason) had to choose another job." > Sorry, why doesn't that mean that the code of conduct that has obliged =20 you to look is 'lo drata jibri'? I thought that the sumti bound to the =20 outer selbri unless given an inner specifier. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google =20 > Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com=20 > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den=20 > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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