From lojban+bncCMvjp-TQBRCdxtDeBBoEl7Q8Gw@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 25 04:10:51 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O5zjX-0007UC-Nw; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:51 -0700 Received: by wya21 with SMTP id 21sf2832201wya.16 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3rzHYRM4yc68lJUW0qfX7FJpIKt2+shsvUjYNjlk9TU=; b=tFVnnoFlrTfxFSRBVwG2/ZSj1atk63CZ5k4w1kgb7k1sUhRm65ZWPVZR31uM3MRkLV 2fGHckhRFYZPgnt6STjF3erbHTo+zSGDlmTtp5dDvDoZ+RYDT+85Iv6OX9wWJ8r+eXaQ Xe7Dpd9t+fmVIj76f6MnhxsGac29jOXhd3mTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XqroE5N7umeCDpiYoOfp3mjasQsu5QPP7CqLHOeAurdsPAiqllNiR4mB7KnHsbSIHz L4hg6ZqZcfjhOUzcAvNsNzfnsl3QH74kvXvw51Vnle/WGgQdoINqJGmQZPHXpPjF9kZW cdqQ4PvL45+FphiaiIRb+E4LG22o7NNq2+WYo= Received: by 10.223.5.69 with SMTP id 5mr720128fau.37.1272193821689; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.32.206 with SMTP id e14ls13189939bkd.2.p; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.163.19 with SMTP id y19mr136045bkx.22.1272193819379; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.163.19 with SMTP id y19mr136044bkx.22.1272193819319; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 17si362895bwz.15.2010.04.25.04.10.18; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.227 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.218.227; Received: by mail-bw0-f227.google.com with SMTP id 27so2133648bwz.33 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.196 with SMTP id c4mr1579681bkt.5.1272193818127; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:10:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.196 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:09:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Daniel Brockman Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:09:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Explicit non-restriction To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dbrockman@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.227 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dbrockman@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: dbrockman@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is {do nelci ma} not already explicitly non-restrictive? This {ma} > explicitly lacks restrictive elements. I don't think so. I think context determines how restricted {ma} is. >> So maybe {.i do nelci ma poi me ro da}? =A0But that sounds weird. > > Wouldn't that actually be more restrictive, as the answer is expected not= to > be other than the same as {ro da} i.e. not to be {zo'e poi na'e me ro da}= ? No, because everything is a referent of {ro da} (by definition). > What if the answer is {no da}? You can still answer {no da}. >> Maybe {do nelci ma bi'u} is a good way! > > There is {e'inai} too. Hmm, yes, that might work too. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.