From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCEp9HeBBoEEMlaCQ@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 25 07:37:28 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O62xP-0000qA-1w; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:37:25 -0700 Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20sf3811056vws.16 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Vd0VXSEEmFNikTX4/adG4rHqBtUCEOhvyLtc1u2Q8Is=; b=XJ1jgEOL+eA9Q+h2qEzGV2br6QVQazJ7C292qLhrW5KKAJb/Rgc0fqC4WdTEkVK3qc 33N84SJIhDxbbX0QYJPIwuQVZIDzEBfhWwe1OKW3XlKGte8GcWCvrnni6HsVtEkN6jsb 6ntzDsLsICE5quojDhrtFe8WPLLzZKRtgYE0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3CEn/Kj8REX9W/Dbe/ksscFF1oyqxPIcaQSN3+L1M6fNgilU2icwNgJjZp71Zd5ONU GrN2jQK6dkjBVlX6aJenQp5sWDVRgP3wBToiWulblnOfaGL1Oax335zJ0Jum0o23OZx8 0793Vfzd1eIildD6LT29/oRhjp9qMb8CJmMi4= Received: by 10.220.107.1 with SMTP id z1mr190083vco.7.1272206212672; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.66.74 with SMTP id m10ls34673464vci.4.p; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.65 with SMTP id c1mr603366vcz.13.1272206211519; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.65 with SMTP id c1mr603365vcz.13.1272206211504; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f200.google.com (mail-qy0-f200.google.com [209.85.221.200]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a10si2284788vci.4.2010.04.25.07.36.50; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.200 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.200; Received: by mail-qy0-f200.google.com with SMTP id 38so11527975qyk.5 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.192.7 with SMTP id do7mr2919218qcb.71.1272206209401; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:36:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201004250946.35411.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201004250946.35411.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:36:49 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Explicit non-restriction From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > "All things" can mean "ro da" or "lu'o ro da", Agree. > "each thing" is "lu'a ro da", Only if "lu'a ro da" = "ro lu'a ro da", which I doubt. > and I'm not sure how to explain the difference between "every" (from > ME "everich"="ever each") and "each". It's the same difference as "todo" > vs. "cada". I think the difference is just one of emphasis or perspective: every/todo: don't forget any, make no exceptions! each/cada: take them one at a time, not in bundles! The English-Spanish correspondences are not perfect though. For example "each and every one" in Spanish is "todos y cada uno", with plural "todos", not singular "todo". "Every" can be collective too "every one together" is possible, but "each" cannot be collective. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.