From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCprNLeBBoEM6V2xg@googlegroups.com Sun Apr 25 12:21:46 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O67Ob-00037u-Iq; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:45 -0700 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf1367894wwb.16 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eeDuUVGpXSfXEMbGtTz4QI82CValr/KqCUviqTt0Qsg=; b=TiQ7GkkPJZOu/Rsp/hQVDFeVK64EDMvXvSFQQp1YhhP/AJsrSefzX5s6vQeqDFOOas PNgO23vu8/iaTXf/LVhjFIQPKBX90GuFqbnsK51dv9ltwjzaGqNsghXDzDOqKyeBHmZl 7d4RBL/RUrmJoUXbzDmOYqxwa7SSqEvyS8xHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M2XJDKTwE1R3Q2+9IUV60gYFMtBB85pKu9y0DhLFLPTuPEGDLo3PiHvWfuTQoYo82Y BiMZ+4oAwU4jIK0xW7hTXCBhqndHOjG4w6jOS2W4SBD9hWrx2Sn1mF+dfgLCkoK01OfY q8QMg9XOMYNgb9SYuNYfBe8iYsfOyc62zKV14= Received: by 10.223.60.83 with SMTP id o19mr836057fah.17.1272223273979; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.6.77 with SMTP id 13ls13739832bky.3.p; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.65 with SMTP id n1mr170152bkw.10.1272223272947; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.65 with SMTP id n1mr170151bkw.10.1272223272918; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f180.google.com (mail-qy0-f180.google.com [209.85.221.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si421693bwz.1.2010.04.25.12.21.11; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.180; Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so15853524qyk.25 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.190.21 with SMTP id dg21mr3583361qcb.69.1272223271038; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.75 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:21:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BBE188B.8070807@lojban.org> <6d4d93ea-e660-4ad1-8910-02ddbb96f48c@b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <561527.86938.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f7591f2-cb68-4a39-940c-965a0770343f@b33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <775037.72228.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <910640.40103.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <971944.73808.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <983500.94659.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:21:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] What gets into 'lo broda' From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Brockman wrot= e: >> This is how I would define "PA mei": >> >> First we define "pamei", "x1 is one": >> >> =A0ko'a pamei .ijo ro'oi da poi ke'a me ko'a zo'u da du ko'a >> =A0"A is one iff for any X among A: X =3D A" > > Why do you need {ro'oi} there? =A0Why not {ro}? > > (Sorry if that's a stupid question. =A0I'm not familiar with > these plural quantifiers.) Either "ro" or "ro'oi" work for this case. (There is a more sensible way to define "(n)mei" though, and it is to start by defining "su'o(n)mei" first.) mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.