From 3gTC2SwcJBrMXrXhgnlZfTbe.VhfehcUTgZhhZeXZkhnil.Vhf@groups.bounces.google.com Fri Apr 02 11:00:02 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f146.google.com ([209.85.210.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <3gTC2SwcJBrMXrXhgnlZfTbe.VhfehcUTgZhhZeXZkhnil.Vhf@groups.bounces.google.com>) id 1Nxl9r-0007wS-1K for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:59 -0700 Received: by yxe10 with SMTP id 10sf1980039yxe.16 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bDPdT0fNPhg8LZGf31tEV5qb4Y7JvJjheQ2GkJPjQBA=; b=fXNSU1DsNyXkQrMZZmbt2RZ8dnQgyuGaupC4Ks+joSzqprFd6hw3r/8DtUQAIHjNIQ Bxnr0L/AuxaYry/qmkJfnSFXGIYGLDOepe/9ZB/2hHnjUxpFSGd2ZhVAzsv/4dO6jeDf b3170vyeruZIUyZyj1eM15hJqPDQ00WT3ob74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:x-thread-url:x-message-url:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ub2cNQzqxHm6i9iww9nGcc5+u7Thk0TbPn3vaS+BbHim1JiX9TTMnJAIsw1BnsLgVs bGtC8scsiPOLG8V9RmiKT5shVNebbQTfwFUQD54z2DDyIcWRpfWjyTTYRqQKPZsNcsOa edPRPMuMQFkpzZbG7W3/HB90aEkCYeYREnBVM= Received: by 10.150.233.5 with SMTP id f5mr139719ybh.26.1270231169852; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.6.77 with SMTP id 13ls1152520bky.3.p; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.203 with SMTP id w11mr149471bkx.12.1270231167919; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.162.203 with SMTP id w11mr149470bkx.12.1270231167868; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h3si3431463bke.4.2010.04.02.10.59.26; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by wwb24 with SMTP id 24so1400979wwb.27 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.30.146 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:59:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201004012236.43061.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 11:59:26 -0600 Received: by 10.216.89.84 with SMTP id b62mr1465543wef.226.1270231166510; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Summary: Cultural fu'ivla From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: X-Thread-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/6edf3f52e6f491ba X-Message-Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/97da050840d0beca Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d97102766786048344bd59 --0016e6d97102766786048344bd59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Christopher Doty wrote: > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 09:36, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Isn't the point of this project to *get* them documented? I know that >> some of these, at least, are on a wiki page, I don't see any problem from >> putting the full list on that page. And once the list is complete, anyone >> new jbopre that ask "What's the Lojban word for [insert language here] will >> be pointed to aforementioned wiki page. >> > > Yes, (one of) the point(s) is to get them documented. I guess I should > rephrase my question: > > For people who have been using the names of languages in various contexts, > have you included these names on the wiki_, or are you just using them > privately? > Ah, I see what you mean. I would imagine that what work has been documented is most likely somewhere on the wiki, and possibly in jbovlaste, those being the two places anything dealing with Lojban would turn up- the former because pretty much anything anyone cares about in Lojban being on the wiki, the latter because, well, it's *the* online repository of Lojban words, official, experimental, or otherwise. As to precisely where, I don't know, but I've no doubt that searching either would be a profitable enterprise. > What I don't want to happen is that, in 2 years, this project comes to > some conclusion and we all agree on a naming system that everyone is happy > with and represents all of the languages of the world and someone jumps up > and says, "Hey, but I've been using XYZ forever for ABC language!!" It > would be nice to know what is out there, now, and where what is out there > is*. > > Chris > > *Parse _that_! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e6d97102766786048344bd59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Christopher Dot= y <suomichris@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 09:36, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gm= ail.com> wrote:

Isn't the point of this project to *get* them documented? I know t= hat some of these, at least, are on a wiki page, I don't see any proble= m from putting the full list on that page. And once the list is complete, a= nyone new jbopre that ask "What's the Lojban word for [insert=A0la= nguage here] will be pointed to aforementioned wiki page.

Yes, (one of) the point(s) is to get them documented. =A0I guess I sho= uld rephrase my question:

For people who have been using the names of languages in various conte= xts, have you included these names on the wiki_, or are you just using them= privately?
=A0
Ah, I see what you mean. I would imagine that what=A0work has been doc= umented=A0is most likely somewhere on the wiki, and possibly in jbovlaste, = those being the two places anything dealing with Lojban would turn up- the = former because pretty much anything anyone cares about in Lojban being on t= he wiki, the latter because, well, it's *the* online repository of Lojb= an words, official, experimental, or otherwise.
=A0
As to precisely where, I don't know, but I've no doubt that se= arching either would be a profitable enterprise.
=A0
What I don't want to happen is that, in 2 years, this project come= s to some conclusion and we all agree on a naming system that everyone is h= appy with and represents all of the languages of the world and someone jump= s up and says, "Hey, but I've been using XYZ forever for ABC langu= age!!" =A0It would be nice to know what is out there, now, and where w= hat is out there is*.

Chris

*Parse _that_!

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