From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCp2KvfBBoE_tjTiQ@googlegroups.com Wed May 12 10:58:23 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OCGCH-0004qf-SA; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:58:22 -0700 Received: by wyb36 with SMTP id 36sf151000wyb.16 for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:58:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y74xTXua9k6obkX1UvmGe/ptQpHK0pZYjpfhX+V4eZw=; b=cvs0OCaaIYPlRmmq3jfpd4fa/DtkExzlehjtwoz+PcKlGA5G4SlyKB+mZma9DOuLZ8 mtMUl5jglIi39p+XVW0SaUUVb04myPT4ITpXmbf7YKBrpJDqKsiKAvYBN9HkzBemCFeJ 4WLycOfVHIUaEFs8KAErQu7ueAiSbD3xmdpaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/bNG+1OVWex3KO9gdlGU4miniRV4p1A7HWN0biqf2Q1l2pfWmAKZ3WzfdZwR5eYXl //crfS6zuKdAb7Mkv1cdgmkbv0nJFDbWyDjpZwAWwvlj+oM0kJMV9d+8QjErXwl5AUhA xnhsb6+ON8JafNdD8RsEdIno4xkzLQc/ewX4U= Received: by 10.223.62.145 with SMTP id x17mr926632fah.13.1273687082013; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:58:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.213.59.131 with SMTP id l3ls6064667ebh.1.p; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.109.142 with SMTP id j14mr1044725ebp.1.1273687078929; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.109.142 with SMTP id j14mr1044724ebp.1.1273687078882; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f42.google.com (mail-vw0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si30094ewy.12.2010.05.12.10.57.57; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.42; Received: by mail-vw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 20so353414vws.1 for ; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.214.20 with SMTP id gy20mr756006qcb.149.1273687077162; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.82.11 with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 2010 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:57:57 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] problem lujvo in {la .alis.} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > These three lujvo from alis have components I can't find: > jve : camri'ojvebla=A0=3D carmi+crino+?+blanu=A0=3D intense+green+?+blue "jve" is a rafsi for "je". > jiknu : xasyjiknu=A0=3D xamsi+?=A0=3D sea+? It should be "jukni". > zra : za'uzra=A0=3D zargu+?=A0=3D buttock+? "za'uzra" is a fu'ivla, because "zr" is not a valid initial. "cizra je za'uzra" was the translation of "curiouser and curiouser". I've changed it to "cizra je ci'izra" in the revision I'm working on. > If they're wrong, what should they be? If they're right, what are the > components, and what do they mean? > > These two have the same rafsi at the beginning (non to verify that they're right. The words don't make much sense to me. > non : nonkansa=A0=3D no+kansa=A0=3D 0+with In jvovlaste: nonkansa: "x1 is alone/lonely/lonesome in state/condition/enterprise x2" from "ko'a kansa be no da ko'e" > non : nonselsmu=A0=3D no+se+smuni=A0=3D 0+[1st conv]+meaning =3D 0+someth= ing with > meaning In jbovlaste: nonselsmu: "x1 is nonsense/nonsensical to x2" from "ko'a selsmu no da ko'e" mi'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.