From lojban+bncCJbznvHdFRDfj7jfBBoE36P5GA@googlegroups.com Fri May 14 19:33:22 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OD7Bl-0005t5-Ud; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:33:22 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf2283629gyd.16 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:33:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=95wLFhYT7N0Hl4RJfamWo/L7+YbS+cev7MncGbG3hmg=; b=zkvDhh1ekJsUmUBF8ISpTlfhpsHpFSSaXHHB44sVIN/xCsul/DOzFZgQJX79xBdKKc 70brbCshpmW0obDsbSvoMZyBtryaoBLVGmPn1H8p/AzwzqDiMu66dpvLhPSyGQc77G4H 5YrPUqnSSWeTOoT6MYmrtMSiyF3/y1BGDM9ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=oAXX/tJLIc5AjM3BpGgtPK99zE//+f6jBuARMomnEMu46utU3KT3XgQharVhTZ05wk mAcBw9xNE7o4OxIgYryayC/FZ1k5+taPDVVXpxs6cdArrdnjIHDcZRH1kabwPWns6Mpp QF0NvEYCF0WP7J6qgZ6LV5Lt2m/Pb6BPdqmMY= Received: by 10.91.84.19 with SMTP id m19mr190198agl.38.1273890783549; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:33:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.91.8 with SMTP id t8ls1416762agl.2.p; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.10.20 with SMTP id 20mr1390836agj.0.1273890779481; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.10.20 with SMTP id 20mr1390835agj.0.1273890779447; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f198.google.com (mail-yx0-f198.google.com [209.85.210.198]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si326102ywh.9.2010.05.14.19.32.58; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.198; Received: by yxe36 with SMTP id 36so1534706yxe.13 for ; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.246.4 with SMTP id t4mr2496835anh.138.1273890778175; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.12.16 with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 2010 19:32:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BECC801.7020203@gmail.com> <201005140100.07543.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4BED59FD.5060404@gmail.com> <20100514151041.GH29740@nvg.org> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 22:32:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban dictionary From: MorphemeAddict To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68ea0a550da98048698cf7e --0016e68ea0a550da98048698cf7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A simple description of how the letters and sounds correspond should be mor= e than adequate. stevo On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Kevin Reid wrote: > On May 14, 2010, at 13:10, Daniel Brockman wrote: > > Yeah, I think pronunciation aids are a waste of space in a dictionary >> for a language that has completely regular pronunciation. >> > > Perhaps they might be a useful guide for someone that's just learning > Lojban, but wants to use words from all of Lojban in whatever they're > working on. > > I would agree with skipping them in a paper, unabridged dictionary. > > > Perhaps a separate tool, =93Lojban to IPA converter=94? 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A simple description of how the letters and sounds correspond should b= e more than adequate.
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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org<= /a>> wrote:
On May 14, 2010, at 13:10, Daniel Brockman wrote:

Yeah, I think pronunciation aids= are a waste of space in a dictionary
for a language that has completely= regular pronunciation.

Perhaps they might be a useful guide for someone tha= t's just learning Lojban, but wants to use words from all of Lojban in = whatever they're working on.

I would agree with skipping them in= a paper, unabridged dictionary.


Perhaps a separate tool, =93Lojban to IPA converter=94? Or does it = already exist?

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