From lojban+bncCOzcnrWBFBDV4r_fBBoEgiSbug@googlegroups.com Sun May 16 06:21:44 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f141.google.com ([209.85.211.141]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ODdml-00013V-Rs; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:44 -0700 Received: by ywh5 with SMTP id 5sf2926398ywh.25 for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:sender :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=t6oow/0FXb5S9D5/JAXvzABTkc4C59eIfEdps+qfvQk=; b=3RvkunQWdEDLuYAURejLhhABzw2LkLNd+nLrQ/Sny/A3puIHb4d0BTxlyVaq59NvS3 URQ7jpsgNczxxesLG+3wRqRvuiqjFNZi+7nKoZwuRddD8bF/hLhKCHzLwyHkmyrV5pz4 p+wwIo/MXIoUGrXZ9dH/SfVbwNMLewfPHUoP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=DtLO1euLxJJMSXhuSlfVex/TcuTzNzAKyRtARsCyBVv4ObRSe7tXjGVB82i4Gi1YVb XsaGVCaUm0tU/H9Ah97XsZAI8EzyjdeWI2CVbJBGDpC/sY1JjobyRKRNUknm5HSc+D/g 7S/AJEbqwb4w+URA9/Upbvlyj1EjMEdPIofN4= Received: by 10.101.26.33 with SMTP id d33mr160334anj.39.1274016085298; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.160.35 with SMTP id m35ls2217670ano.2.p; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.20.2 with SMTP id 2mr1089268ant.1.1274016084704; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.20.2 with SMTP id 2mr1089267ant.1.1274016084660; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com (mail-qy0-f194.google.com [209.85.221.194]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 18si406954gxk.15.2010.05.16.06.21.23; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.194 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.221.194; Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so11329537qyk.0 for ; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.250.8 with SMTP id mm8mr850008qcb.164.1274016083467; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.42.202 with HTTP; Sun, 16 May 2010 06:21:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:21:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Attitudinal scales and the meaning of {cu'i} From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pascal.akihiko@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.194 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pascal.akihiko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: pascal.akihiko@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163631032117dd680486b5fcfa --00163631032117dd680486b5fcfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 15 May 2010 23:12, Daniel Brockman wrote: > > When I use {za'u re'u}, I'm thinking about that the number in question is > > larger than another contextually understood number, > > That's roughly what I meant by "a time after the previous time", and I > think > it may be the core of the argument. > > That {za'u re'u} is used as if it meant {za'u tu'o re'u}. > Yes, I agree. And I see {za'u tu'o re'u} as the default meaning of {za'u re'u}. I don't think {za'u re'u} should suggest {za'u so'i re'u} "more-than-many-th time" by default. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00163631032117dd680486b5fcfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 15 May 2010 23:12, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se&g= t; wrote:
> When I use {za'u re'u}, I'm thinking abo= ut that the number in question is
> larger than another contextually understood number,

That's roughly what I meant by "a time after the previous ti= me", and I think
it may be the core of the argument.

That {za'u re'u} is used as if it meant {za'u tu'o re'u= }.

Yes, I agree. And I see {za'u tu'o re&#= 39;u} as the default meaning of {za'u re'u}. I don't think {za&= #39;u re'u} should suggest {za'u so'i re'u} "more-than= -many-th time" by default.

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