From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDBqsrfBBoECXpPaQ@googlegroups.com Tue May 18 06:25:42 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OEMng-0000SB-3t; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:41 -0700 Received: by pvg2 with SMTP id 2sf114333pvg.16 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=g5hsONtSfDolnvPvla5eI7qTTk0grNZA+0Yo1Oez09k=; b=dVrNg3CDOmY68g0sLJOH3OrjQ2Y2p8PHQ5Iv15FsK1whqTPPJp8KptrTlevjOZjLu8 6s4/MdGwSaLGexePvDAqyHS8tl4lVpW0CEVYPSlV5lEDLBnkH1T75tKb3ucXUhKA4zvA l4viVnN3Jm3MqumhjIdbzwreYThbteAahKE5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=VmkXwzMNj6Vg+krCNaZsSmu4xwvvL9/LesjAJ1nOz+y6dTvUGPyhaGoDhaSqfawHxB 7r1982tZhKRQuMAVomfFAocUDX5KbDnfj1igVV11g6LJNdeSpLmBCIxBMZ8K9k9gF1uZ PS/nGc0gDR4FGrr1lDwovMocQyTVHaX0epCPg= Received: by 10.142.247.8 with SMTP id u8mr316196wfh.38.1274189121258; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.103.33 with SMTP id f33ls637348wam.3.p; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.33.39 with SMTP id g39mr2937579wag.1.1274189119056; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.33.39 with SMTP id g39mr2937577wag.1.1274189118893; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f48.google.com (mail-vw0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r3si10177651waj.3.2010.05.18.06.25.17; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.48; Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1090758vws.7 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.128.205 with SMTP id l13mr3506387vcs.28.1274189117054; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 2010 06:25:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:25:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Named multiples From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e887849b2def00486de4537 --e0cb4e887849b2def00486de4537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> I noticed something on that page that I didn't understand. Why get rid of >> sa? What could be more clear than "take next word and erase all previous >> words back to the last occurrence of the following word"? > > (It's about selma'o, not about specific words.) Wait, the proposal then is to get rid of all of SA, not just sa itself? I don't think I want to live in a world without {si}. ta'onai. So, I haven't been able to completely follow the conversation fully. Would the proposed merging cause cmevla to become valid selbri words? e.g. something like {mi spagetis. citka}? What would be the ramifications of this? What would be the proposed default meaning of something like {ko'a cu djan ko'e ko'i}? On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Daniel Brockman wrote: > > I noticed something on that page that I didn't understand. Why get rid > of > > sa? What could be more clear than "take next word and erase all previous > > words back to the last occurrence of the following word"? > > (It's about selma'o, not about specific words.) > > The definition may be clear, but it's apparently a headache to implement. > Have a look for yourself in the normal grammar. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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>> I noticed something on tha= t page that I didn't understand.=A0 Why get rid of
>> sa?=A0 What could be more clear than "take next word and eras= e all previous
>> words back to the last occurrence of the followi= ng word"?
>
> (It's about selma'o, not about specific words.)
Wait, the proposal then is to get rid of all of SA, not just sa itself? = =A0I don't think I want to live in a world without {si}.<= /font>

ta'onai. =A0So, I= haven't been able to completely follow the conversation fully. =A0Woul= d the proposed merging cause cmevla to become valid selbri words? =A0e.g. s= omething like {mi spagetis. citka}? =A0What would be the ramifications of t= his? =A0What would be the proposed default meaning of something like {ko= 9;a cu djan ko'e ko'i}?

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at= 5:49 PM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:
> I noticed something on that page that I didn't u= nderstand.=A0 Why get rid of
> sa?=A0 What could be more clear than "take next word and erase al= l previous
> words back to the last occurrence of the following word"?

(It's about selma'o, not about specific words.)

The definition may be clear, but it's apparently a headache to implemen= t.
Have a look for yourself in the normal grammar.

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