From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDazcvfBBoE5Zzmxw@googlegroups.com Tue May 18 12:14:08 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OESEs-0005qi-WB; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:14:07 -0700 Received: by pxi13 with SMTP id 13sf1881754pxi.16 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qzfZy/gVvim0xZqFEI1P4/EIrb88YohR6ff2O5WrYGM=; b=C35LIqtlnnZcwq4XEceuoZ6PdlD/cWgsZ/GXoItu5XmU4/hKL/hMmb0oCmhkpOdu/6 jAiKxcyjAgSgQHTLpSmvGcE6+HBEJtXaqFgP1OmtbTcEU4Oipw4gTNQFHNZegthanQ9P Ijw1BxOYSn8fv4uqxuKz1YINlhtB2ROcAXN3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=C8YUbc2pIrsmtIbgmDPoojdJB0kNxs53IvtF/RJDpQ93AsnhL0Yp2tPQO2uMM1hgrN cyLeLlRoMDT4yZhnKcblU6wFoCavyHgeu/LaVwwVhzdfUQyZVoiGE6buZxqRubHDZebi OF2M9gY6ZKb6ngVjJB4YRq1kapi8/6cffjCKE= Received: by 10.115.81.27 with SMTP id i27mr1083944wal.17.1274210011076; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.133.33 with SMTP id k33ls925553wan.2.p; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.69.11 with SMTP id r11mr3061221waa.47.1274210007588; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.69.11 with SMTP id r11mr3061220waa.47.1274210007539; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r3si10612218waj.3.2010.05.18.12.13.26; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.54; Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so1031373vws.13 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.123.5 with SMTP id n5mr3759901vcr.249.1274210005562; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:13:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:13:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Named multiples From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1f673c036040486e32241 --001636e1f673c036040486e32241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > However, prior texts which did > not separate {cmevla} from following {selbri} (e.g., "{la .ktulxus. senv= a > denpa}") would either take on a completely different meaning or become invalid. Oh, that's a good point. So would you just have to use {ku}/{cu} for that? And I wonder what would happen to a parser that ran into {la djan cusku zo coi}. Would it try to suck {cusku} in to the cmevla... where would a parse= r try to put the elided {ku} in that bridi under the proposed change? Or would it be a syntax error? 2010/5/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > So effectively {mi djan} would be {mi me la djan}. > > Or to take a more famous line: "mi tarzan .i do djein". > > > And my mistake, I forgot that si,sa,su each had their own selma'o. So > you > > have no qualms about si and su then? > > They don't have the problems that "sa" has, no. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001636e1f673c036040486e32241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=A0=A0However, prior texts which did
> =A0not separate {cmevla} from following {selbri} (e.g., "{la .ktu= lxus. senva
> =A0denpa}") would either take on a completely diff= erent meaning or become invalid.

Oh, that's a good point. =A0So would you just have to u= se {ku}/{cu} for that? =A0And I wonder what would happen to a parser that r= an into {la djan cusku zo coi}. =A0Would it try to suck {cusku} in to the c= mevla... where would a parser try to put the elided {ku} in that bridi unde= r the proposed change? =A0Or would it be a syntax error?

2010/5/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&= gt;
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> So effectively {mi djan} would be {mi me la djan}.

Or to take a more famous line: "mi tarzan .i do djein".

> And my mistake, I forgot that si,sa,su each had their own selma'o.= =A0So you
> have no qualms about si and su then?

They don't have the problems that "sa" has, no.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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