From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDv0s_fBBoE1MVQLg@googlegroups.com Wed May 19 06:37:05 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OEjSG-0007So-JB; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:37:05 -0700 Received: by pvg2 with SMTP id 2sf497454pvg.16 for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=cf+2f2F9Qcr5dCT8P8313WHwZbNuDHcA4erroT17bws=; b=NpBBpPbRMlaLhRDOcw2H4O2M/jvPj2bHaYfQK/k/Xqkv1qs42Aq1nx2PcH8YT1YkLx r9F5n92b0Ipb9AwFw6A4t6o3hfqeapIiufRESkD6KVvz1Pc98FJFStGoSP5dfkyEjKOU SlujqNaUlK3QgQrnjO5GNbHVuht5q9YeDtAVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=i+vRLwTJ0fjHJvR4NCBpkF/dB/I2hPZz42jxwn8jxaHKvp4n26b+Q35c5RhPfuMQaB JoJp0dK3sPsokLKsmpiph9mhLmeegzqaKL0ObMpvf2IaxHPX5UKw1BJqF6SpHPveoPgy E8Rvhf6XBSwMxyPBkIEdvCwSGcek6RQlvJc4s= Received: by 10.114.70.14 with SMTP id s14mr1234995waa.22.1274276207408; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.103.33 with SMTP id f33ls1751919wam.3.p; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.16.2 with SMTP id 2mr3548244wap.49.1274276205084; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.16.2 with SMTP id 2mr3548243wap.49.1274276205045; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com (mail-vw0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u10si11912791wak.6.2010.05.19.06.36.43; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.45; Received: by mail-vw0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 1so2426306vws.32 for ; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.80.96 with SMTP id s32mr4439535vck.194.1274276202949; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.94.77 with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 2010 06:36:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100518160715.GA6617@sdf.lonestar.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:36:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Named multiples From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64718786cdca90486f28c4d --0016e64718786cdca90486f28c4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So this change assumes dotside in order to work, right? On May 19, 2010 8:38 AM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Oleksii Melnyk wrote: > > More possible issues... Anything preceded by "la" is a name. "la plipe klupe clupa" is one name, the meaning of the internal tanru is not relevant to that. > 2. Names was allowed to have any stresses/pauses (afair). Any stress, yes. Any pause, no. cmevla must be surrounded by pauses. And, like for any other word, you cannot pause in the middle of a cmevla > We can, probably, > have an ambiguous parsing of some weird enough names, especially in spoke= n > ... No, there is no change at all in the morphology rules. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to... --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e64718786cdca90486f28c4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So this change assumes dotside in order to work, right?

On May 19, 2010 8:38 AM, "Jorge Llamb=EDa= s" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:24= AM, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmai= l.com> wrote:
>
> More possible issues...

Anything preceded by "l= a" is a name. "la plipe klupe clupa" is one
name, the meaning of the internal tanru is not relevant to that.


> 2. Names was allowed to have any stress= es/pauses (afair).

Any stress, yes. Any pause, no. cmevla mus= t be surrounded by pauses.
And, like for any other word, you cannot pause in the middle of a
cmevla


> We can, probably,
> have an ambig= uous parsing of some weird enough names, especially in spoken
> ...

No, there is no change at all in the morphology rules.


mu'o mi'e xorxes

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