From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCfrezfBBoEKA7mlQ@googlegroups.com Mon May 24 17:15:48 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f151.google.com ([209.85.211.151]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OGho4-0004W3-UB; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:47 -0700 Received: by ywh15 with SMTP id 15sf3809757ywh.7 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WiA+EvGk3GK3a1V+wkBq9N5HwRN1pl5UxbNmgRntDKg=; b=nDyvELQj6utBSQq318K3oYYJOm+Mh0QjUAP0Jq+nxZlgcF3xC1DgjC6kEvrpzAbTWq 2kMfIdUutlSq3vyQYb2HVQXnqIVDUm6b9KxmzqPYzex2KnXTPoDMrvXE8un97Dz0jlKd ZcJmx27AnETOphj3AVAn+X1yf7aqycOK0g43o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-authentication-results:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=JIo67RShENWJaNvsEEvOafJ+thUqZmVgmgFhFhLghxEpebuB6DqHv7hwOTl2QoCuE7 FPSol54Xr1U6eU1rC/7iNm3xJqIPL+aGhgPsFjCHWaP2rkj9E1pzcSlARG4sMuElgQOj LBXe18L6A40rZc878wUPb9cy1Qyw8MRzivXOI= Received: by 10.91.56.20 with SMTP id i20mr285054agk.5.1274746527174; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.39.13 with SMTP id r13ls456393agj.5.p; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr3017022agk.1.1274746526258; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr3017021agk.1.1274746526223; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com (mail-gx0-f189.google.com [209.85.217.189]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si430734gxk.2.2010.05.24.17.15.26; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.217.189 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lindarthebard@yahoo.com) client-ip=209.85.217.189; Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so3891146gxk.14 for ; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.152.1 with SMTP id e1mr221730ano.77.1274746526167; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 173.196.20.139 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <3414c7b0-2a75-4cb2-99a4-0afa6458f6ba@t34g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Named multiples From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.217.189 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lindarthebard@yahoo.com) smtp.mail=lindarthebard@yahoo.com X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, is the proposal that ".randomcmevlastring." is just a selbri with a meaning "x1 is called 'randomcmevlastring'" ? Cos if so, that's actually a good idea. From how you were explaining it before, I thought you were proposing to say, that ".spagetis." should be a selbri with a meaning "x1 is spaghetti", which is a horrible idea. I think somebody had already mentioned it, but it would make a name like "Little John" or "Big Stu" easier to translate, and we could ascribe qualities of people to things in tanru. So, I'm sorry if my previous post came off as an emotional appeal. If your proposal is to make .cmevlastrings. mean x1 is called .cmevlastrings., then I like it. However, that doesn't really solve the initial problem, from what I can see. Isn't "la .bu,ik." still the company, and not the brand of car? How would one, under this system, refer to a plate of spaghetti, or a specific make of vehicle, using this new system versus the current system? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.